On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:30 PM, David Shemano wrote:
Therefore, to "money libertarians." liberty is a status relationship between man and the state, while for the modern day Hegelians, freedom is [the] state of a man.
That is why, as I noted, the slaveowners fought for "Liberty" while the slaves and the abolitionists (and, after 1862, the unionists) fought for "Freedom."
"Let's rally 'round the flag, boys rally once again, shouting the battle cry of Freedom! The Union forever, hurrah boys, hurrah! Down with the Traitors and up with the Stars! As we rally 'round the flag, boys, rally once again, shouting the battle cry of Freedom! Shane Mage
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