the key distinction is not "freedom" vs. "liberty." Instead, it's "negative freedom" (freedom from constraints imposed by other people, which usually emphasizes the constraints imposed by the government) vs. "positive freedom" (the availability of choices, the capacity to do and be what one wants). Both rich and poor may have the same amount of "negative freedom" (because they're not allowed to sleep under bridges since they all have to live under the same laws) but the rich have a much greater number of choices (they can go on vacation in Gstaad, etc.)
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Shane Mage <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, David Shemano wrote: > > The Hegelians had to overcome an individualistic resistance to their > organic view of the state, which necessitated an attack on the common > understanding of the value of “freedom.” > > ** ** > > The greatest Hegelians, Marx and Engels, regarded the State as the central > organ of class oppression and the direct antagonist of freedom! > > Shane Mage > > "Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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