Carrol writes: > I see the problem to lie in capitalist relations of production, NOT in the > opinions or desires of individual capitalists or individual capitalist > politicians.
> If this is so, then the needed actions simply cannot be taken within the > framework of global capitalism. Your argument is exactly why I thought that Marxists would be unlikely to take the Durban process seriously, and why I wanted to start this discussion. Going along with the media here in the US which ignore or belittle the Durban process would be a big mistake. The Durban process is going to be the world's last hope to avert climate disruption. It will be the focal point for many progressive forces. If we Marxists stay on the sidelines because of our superior knowledge that it cannot work, we will lose credibility exactly at a time when many people become critical of the capitalist system. If, on the other hand, we with our big mouths make the Durban process better known, put pressure on the US administration not to sabotage it, and help build the international grassroots movement needed to push it through against the will of the capitalists, then we will earn a place in the ongoing struggles which will lead to the end of capitalism. Hans. _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
