Marx "rescued" Hodgskin and Dilke "from obscurity," so to speak. This is not a matter of plagiarism but of Marx's unexcelled discernment for sources. My point (and I suspect Michael and I agree on this) is that a more profound interpretation of Marx can be had from an appreciation of the insights that his sources contributed to his analysis.
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:44 PM, michael perelman < [email protected]> wrote: > I think that Hodgskin is the inspiration for Marx's 2 sector model in Vol. > 2. > > > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, the "means of production." I would suggest that on this question it >> would be prudent to go back a bit before Herr Marx to Mr. Hodgskin's >> argument about co-existing labour. The "means of production" are not, in >> fact, machines or raw materials but the simultaneous labour of other >> workers. If one follows Marx through all the convolutions of the fetishism >> of commodities, I think one will arrive back at a perhaps more subtle >> interpretation of Hodgskin's co-existing labour, but one whose subtlety >> makes it too FUCKING easy to reduce to a vulgar materialist "substance". >> Marx equivocated on this point, so either reading is plausible. >> >> But just because Marx equivocated, doesn't mean that we have to. >> >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> If you define class struggle as struggle for control of >>> means of production, the environmental movement is a kind of >>> class struggle. It is the struggle for control over and >>> benefit from the earth's natural resources, which are means >>> of production. >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> Tom Walker (Sandwichman) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> > > > -- > Michael Perelman > Economics Department > California State University > Chico, CA > 95929 > > 530 898 5321 > fax 530 898 5901 > http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > -- Cheers, Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
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