Two points in response to Joseph Green: (1) Everything in capitalism is markets, but not everything capitalists do is market *fundamentalism*. The Durban framework does not transcend markets, but I would not call it market fundamentalist.
(2) Regarding class struggle: many people who are becoming critical of the capitalist system nowadays follow an opposite trajectory than socialists. Socialists know that capitalists exploit workers, and therefore they do not find it surprising that capitalists also wreck the environment. Modern environmentalists observe that capitalists wreck the environment, and when they try to understand why capitalists are allowed to do this, they discover that capitalists own the means of production and exploit laborers. The struggle to preserve a livable planet is a class struggle. I think the capitalists are so afraid of this movement and do everything they can to derail the movement because capitalists know that in the long run they cannot remain capitalists if the environmental movement gains enough power to stop the transformation of the planet into something humans are not adapted to. > Well, that class struggle -- the one waged by > establishment environmentalism -- didn't last long, did > it? Quite the contrary. The environmental struggles will last *very* long, because the habitability of the planet for humans will continue to be at risk. I think over time the movement will also become more aware that it is a class struggle. I.e., the socialist dimension will come to the surface as the movement matures. Do not write off this movement because it does not start with the condemnation of capitalist exploitation. It is a young movement which will discover on its own time that it is fighting against a social system and not just against misguided or greedy invididuals. Hans _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
