Good to see all the discussion. Keep it up!

Couple of points:

- I entirely agree that the BoF, other than scene setting (and the
usual ranting which we'll keep to a minimum:-) needs to be focused
on what the IETF can do. (Broader list discussion, e.g. about the
open-source community, seems fine and who knows might lead to some
concrete stuff we would like to talk about at the BoF.)

- I think that "privacy" is too broad and not sufficiently focused
as a topic for a BoF session. Much as I'd like to see more progress
on corporate privacy-busting, I think this session will be better
kept more focused on recent pervasive monitoring attacks and what
we can do in the IETF to mitigate those attacks.

- I agree with Dave that it'd be good to have a better idea of what
other protocols/areas of the IETF might be affected and/or part of
the answer. For example, the LISP WG list have an active discussion
now about encrypting encapsulated packet content. That wasn't one
that would have occurred to me but if the LISP folks are up for it
then it seems like a fine addition to their protocol. I'd be keen
to get more examples of IETF protocols where we could do stuff to
counter pervasive monitoring. The protocols where we improve things
btw don't need to have been part of current news stories - I don't
think LISP has featured for example:-)

So keep the discussion flowing and we'll organise more as we go.
Ta,
S.
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