"privacy properties of IETF protocols and concrete ways in which
those could be improved."

to repeat my statement from berlin, privacy by default.  and as many
places as we can enable it.


If we -- the IETF community -- had a definition of privacy, that would help, but we don't.

If we knew what it meant to 'enable privacy' (nevermind whether by default), that would also help, but we don't.

So the idea of 'privacy by default' well could serve as a useful catch-phrase, but at the moment, it lacks technical substance. We have no shared, technical understanding of its meaning.

No doubt you have particulars in mind. No doubt lots of folks have their own set of particulars. Unfortunately each person's particulars tends to be different.

So what we lack are a) anything like a specific technical meaning for privacy, b) any system-level sense of what it means to provide privacy, or c) any prioritization of privacy issues so that we can get the most benefit from initial efforts.

My question was meant to prompt discussion at a technical level. There have been the tiniest wisps of comment on the list that might provide touchstones for this, but they haven't been pursued. We need to pursue them.

Catch-phrases will be useful to summarize the results.

d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
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