On 09/13/2013 05:44 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
>>> "privacy properties of IETF protocols and concrete ways in which
>>> those could be improved."
>>
>> to repeat my statement from berlin, privacy by default.  and as many
>> places as we can enable it.
>
>
> If we -- the IETF community -- had a definition of privacy, that would
> help, but we don't.
>
Its always entertaining to go trolling back to first principles on one of
these IETF lists but we've done that before and its typically about as
useful as random walks through technology.

I hope and suspect some folks are busy working on problem statement
drafts already...

Personally I'd like to talk about specific proposals to do what Randy
just said: more P and by default, whatever your definition of P is.

        Cheers Leif
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