Actually, SS3 and smalltalkhub appeared about the same time. Tobias Pape had been slowly improving the GemStone version of SqueakSource3 and I got tired of waiting 2-3 days for SqueakSource to come back from a crash, so I pushed SS3 up as an Alpha to get something up that was more stable than SqueakSource. About the same time, SmalltalkHub was made available and I didn't want to compete with SmalltalkHub and at the time it seemed to have potential, so I backed off on my plans to go beyond the Alpha release of SS3. There were several sets of known bugs and performance issues ... but it was and still is Alpha and was never intended to go into production.
After several months of development, SmalltalkHub had not quite made it to be production ready and Stef asked me to start backing up SS3 so that it could be used for production apps ... I reluctantly agreed, because at the time SqueakSource was very unstable and something was needed ... Unfortunately the time window for me to have time to devote time to SS3 had passed and Tobias was busy with his work as well. And it took longer than originally anticipated for SmalltalkHub to be ready for prime time. Tobias has continued to work on the SqueakSource3 code base and bring it way beyond the Alpha version that is in production. The folks at Hasso Plattner Institute are using Tobias' SqueakSource3 in production for their Smalltalk repos. But it seemed to not be worth the effort to try to compete with SmalltalkHub ... the original intent of SS3 being brought into production was to be a stopgap measure until SmalltalkHub was ready... Today, I am using GitHub for all of my projects ([1], [2], [3], and [4]) so again I just don't have the time to devote to SS3 to incorporate the improvements that Tobias has had (for years now) .... Neither SqueakSource3 nor SmalltalkHub comes close to the collaborative feature set of GitHub and I personally would rather devote my own time and effort to new Smalltalk projects than trying to duplicate GitHub in Smalltalk. We continue to host SS3, with all of its Alpha warts because is very stable and a number of folks use it on a daily basis... Dale [1] https://github.com/GsDevKit [2] https://github.com/glassdb [3] https://github.com/dalehenrich [4] https://github.com/CampSmalltalk On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Denis Kudriashov <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2014-11-27 18:01 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>: > >> btw… historic reference: sthub was never intended to be there for stay. I >> remember talking about it with Nico and Stef, more than two years ago, >> before sthub came online, and our conclusion at the time was: “yes, the >> future it will be git, but until we get there, let’s put sthub online >> because sqsource cannot handle more projects" > > > And why you not choose squeaksource3 which maintained by gemstone team and > includes all features from old squeaksource? Why you instead develop sthub > if you not believe in it? > > >
