2010/1/30 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>: > Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I first > wanted to ask you what do you think. > > I am new in the world of the research and about reading and discussing about > papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this mail and please tell me > where is it. > > I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where we can > freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the beginning I > though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then I though it is > better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers of all flavors can > join and discuss. > > The main purpose about that list is: > > - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in general. I > say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper that the person > who wrote it is also in this place. We are all professional and I think we > can discuss with respect. > - LEARN. > > Other uses: > - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read that > XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it. > - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning > - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper. > - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can > meet people, join forces, etc. > - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops, conferences, > and so on > - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to review > for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help. > - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some papers > where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ? > - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a conference/workshop > - Educate people and being educated > - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code for > example > - Discuss about research in general > - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic, I > can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work. > - others > > I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper about LOOM > - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from ECOOP 1986 (the only > thing an Argentinian can think about that year is Maradona's goals to > England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at that time. LOOM was based in > Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. I had to read some chapters of the > blue book first in order to then understand LOOM. I have ever seen LOOM > code, I don't know what happened with it, etc. So, maybe there is someone > who even saw LOOM in live, he saw the code, he knows what happened, if it > worked really or not, the advantages and drawbacks, the repercussion it had, > etc. That information, those opinions, you cannot get it from other place. > > So, what do you think? Do you like the idea or has no sense ? If you > like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all > Smalltalk mailing lists I know. > > In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN.
Hi Mariano, i like the idea of open research or open science : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_research Research ideas should be implemented as open-source software, papers and date should be freely available to everyone. But i think, you are a bit optimistic about discussing and sharing about papers before they are submitting. People would like to share their papers with close friends or colleagues, but i guess they will not release they paper unfinish in a public mailing-list. In spite of this, i like the idea of sharing research ideas especially among different communities. For example, i'm looking from interested people to discuss ideas about using software engineering (especially dynamic language like Smalltalk) in the context of robotics. I think there is a lot of mutual interests here. I like the idea of a smalltalk-research community because sometimes you are a bit alone in your laboratory fighting against other people that are doing Java or other boring stuff. Yes, there is some islands around the world where several Smalltalkers are together, but these are exceptions. So i vote for smalltalk-research ;-) Best regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
