Probably.
There were some discussions that alien will be integrated / working also for 
the windows vm.
So we will see which one I will let people with more experience telling that to 
us.

Stef

On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > yes communication with C library. so this is just a tool too.
> >
> >
> >
> > Exactly. It is a tool. Not a dev tool in my opinion.In such way,  SqueakDBX 
> > is also a tool. A tool to persist in a relational database.
> 
> Mariano FFI/ALIEN is ***REALLY*** important to get the possibility to call 
> and write code in smalltalk
> as mentioned by john so this is more central (closer to core) than openDBX or 
> refactoring browser.
> Look at lua... why lua is cool because he can be embeded seamlessly in C and 
> call C. So if we do not put pressure
> on FFI to support callback well or ALIEN then we will stay this language that 
> has problem to interact with the outside world.
> This is why having FFI in pharo-dev is important. We should be able to call 
> mac native menu.
> Of course we should pay attention that we rely too much on C library but the 
> world is getting more complex and writing
> everything in smalltalk is also costly. Not FFI/ALIEN can reduce our 
> dependency to C compilation and C-writing so this is already
> an important step.
> Am I clear?
> 
> 
> Yes, and I agree. However, that was not the discussion. I agree FFI is 
> important. I don't care to add it to PharoDev 1.1 if you agree with that.
> But I STILL think and that's what I was discussing in the last mail, is that 
> FFI is NOT A DEV TOOL for me. 
> Anyway...forget this little discussion.  
> 
> In summary, should I add FFI when I start to build PharoDev 1.1 ?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mariano 
> 
> Stef
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