+2 :) 


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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1


On Apr 25, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> +1
> 
> I would even vote for a nice Java integration if one would be available :).

I hope that johan will provide Javaconnect but this one will be a real external 
tool :)

> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2010, at 18:17, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>> On 25 Apr 2010, at 12:12, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> yes communication with C library. so this is just a tool too.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly. It is a tool. Not a dev tool in my opinion.In such way,  
>>>> SqueakDBX is also a tool. A tool to persist in a relational database.
>>> 
>>> Mariano FFI/ALIEN is ***REALLY*** important to get the possibility 
>>> to call and write code in smalltalk as mentioned by john so this is more 
>>> central (closer to core) than openDBX or refactoring browser.
>>> Look at lua... why lua is cool because he can be embeded seamlessly 
>>> in C and call C. So if we do not put pressure on FFI to support callback 
>>> well or ALIEN then we will stay this language that has problem to interact 
>>> with the outside world.
>>> This is why having FFI in pharo-dev is important. We should be able to call 
>>> mac native menu.
>>> Of course we should pay attention that we rely too much on C library 
>>> but the world is getting more complex and writing everything in 
>>> smalltalk is also costly. Not FFI/ALIEN can reduce our dependency to C 
>>> compilation and C-writing so this is already an important step.
>>> Am I clear?
>>> 
>>> Stef
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