On Apr 25, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > +1 > > I would even vote for a nice Java integration if one would be available :).
I hope that johan will provide Javaconnect but this one will be a real external tool :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 25 Apr 2010, at 18:17, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On 25 Apr 2010, at 12:12, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>>> >>>> yes communication with C library. so this is just a tool too. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Exactly. It is a tool. Not a dev tool in my opinion.In such way, >>>> SqueakDBX is also a tool. A tool to persist in a relational database. >>> >>> Mariano FFI/ALIEN is ***REALLY*** important to get the possibility to call >>> and write code in smalltalk >>> as mentioned by john so this is more central (closer to core) than openDBX >>> or refactoring browser. >>> Look at lua... why lua is cool because he can be embeded seamlessly in C >>> and call C. So if we do not put pressure >>> on FFI to support callback well or ALIEN then we will stay this language >>> that has problem to interact with the outside world. >>> This is why having FFI in pharo-dev is important. We should be able to call >>> mac native menu. >>> Of course we should pay attention that we rely too much on C library but >>> the world is getting more complex and writing >>> everything in smalltalk is also costly. Not FFI/ALIEN can reduce our >>> dependency to C compilation and C-writing so this is already >>> an important step. >>> Am I clear? >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project