On Apr 25, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> +1
> 
> I would even vote for a nice Java integration if one would be available :).

I hope that johan will provide Javaconnect but this one will be a real external 
tool :)

> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2010, at 18:17, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>> On 25 Apr 2010, at 12:12, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> yes communication with C library. so this is just a tool too.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly. It is a tool. Not a dev tool in my opinion.In such way,  
>>>> SqueakDBX is also a tool. A tool to persist in a relational database.
>>> 
>>> Mariano FFI/ALIEN is ***REALLY*** important to get the possibility to call 
>>> and write code in smalltalk
>>> as mentioned by john so this is more central (closer to core) than openDBX 
>>> or refactoring browser.
>>> Look at lua... why lua is cool because he can be embeded seamlessly in C 
>>> and call C. So if we do not put pressure
>>> on FFI to support callback well or ALIEN then we will stay this language 
>>> that has problem to interact with the outside world.
>>> This is why having FFI in pharo-dev is important. We should be able to call 
>>> mac native menu.
>>> Of course we should pay attention that we rely too much on C library but 
>>> the world is getting more complex and writing
>>> everything in smalltalk is also costly. Not FFI/ALIEN can reduce our 
>>> dependency to C compilation and C-writing so this is already
>>> an important step.
>>> Am I clear?
>>> 
>>> Stef
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