Em 30/12/2010 19:56, Stéphane Ducasse < [email protected] > escreveu:

> Hi guys
>  I think that over the years I  (but also many of you, I know) tried
> to expose newbies to smalltalk or our culture.  And often we get bad
> reactions, bad windows,  bad colors, slow, why not  in svn, .....  I

Those specific reactions are more likely to be about Squeak of Pharo
than Smalltalk in general, isn't?

> think that  showing Smalltalk to  newbies is the  best we can  do to
> ourselves, not really to attract new  people but also to get a large
> kick in the  %^&* because most of the time  students are not stupid,
> they are exposed  to other technos. 

Yes. They make an excellent litmus test without the risks of expending
lots of money in the 'launching of product' which can become an Edsel
of the programming languages...

> So each time  we believe we want
> to show  them something cool and  they do not really  consider it as
> cool as we believe, we can of course think that they are idiot (some
> of them are) but  most of the time we can also  think that may be we
> stayed too long in our  little boxes and the world moved (interfaced
> well  with  c, fast,  cool  frameworks,  has  cool tools,  processes
> (integration...), cool  UIs, web stuff.....).   

Indeed.

> So each time  we get
> down because  we do not see the  little flame opening in  the yes of
> the others we can think hard and get from them what we missed.

I believe this is the first step to get the best direction to follow.

>  I really  happy to  get exposed  to student acid  tests, this  is a
> valuable feedback and I wanted to share that with you.

Stef, now comes the rub: do you think it is possible to systematize
the lessons learned and post a summary for us here?

Perhaps we should open a specific Wiki page on this?

Regards,

--
Cesar Rabak

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