Thanks stan :) If you are looking for a master topic let us know :) Now my point was more on us getting reality check than students not adoring our language.
Stef > It vastly depends on the way it's presented. I'm a forth year student > myself, I've been working for several years in java shops (& flex > recently) and since I've discovered Pharo I started avoiding > everything else :) > > The image itself, dev tools in the same vm that runs the application, > excellent frameworks (seaside is much much much more easier to setup > and also that much easier to use compared to any, any java web > framework), the really nice api/kernel classes. I DO love it!, and > I've been exposed to basically everything else popular :) > > However, one has to walk the path of pain (manually editing source > code without highlight and completion, non-verbose compilers, missing > debuggers, weird runtime dependencies/dll/jar hells, etc) to fully > appreciate pharo and smalltalk in general. Otherwise he won't have the > base to compare. > Stanislav Paskalev > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[email protected]> wrote: >> My point was not about pharo against squeak. I'm not at the microscopic >> level.... >> I'm just thinking that remembering when is the last we were bold and face a >> complete room to students knowing Java, ruby.... >> is a good way to get feedback on what we believe is cool. >> >> Stef >
