It vastly depends on the way it's presented. I'm a forth year student
myself, I've been working for several years in java shops (& flex
recently) and since I've discovered Pharo I started avoiding
everything else :)

The image itself, dev tools in the same vm that runs the application,
excellent frameworks (seaside is much much much more easier to setup
and also that much easier to use compared to any, any java web
framework), the really nice api/kernel classes. I DO love it!, and
I've been exposed to basically everything else popular :)

However, one has to walk the path of pain (manually editing source
code without highlight and completion, non-verbose compilers, missing
debuggers, weird runtime dependencies/dll/jar hells, etc) to fully
appreciate pharo and smalltalk in general. Otherwise he won't have the
base to compare.
Stanislav Paskalev



On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[email protected]> wrote:
> My point was not about pharo against squeak. I'm not at the microscopic 
> level....
> I'm just thinking that remembering when is the last we were bold and face a 
> complete room to students knowing Java, ruby....
> is a good way to get feedback on what we believe is cool.
>
> Stef

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