On 24 April 2012 11:44, Norbert Hartl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Am 24.04.2012 um 11:35 schrieb Geert Claes:
>
>>
>> Norbert Hartl wrote
>>>
>>> Of course, if there is an ugly replacment that can be used if the system
>>> is minimised. Having two icon sets introduces the possibility to make the
>>> ugly one consume even less memory, e.g. make it black and white.
>>>
>>
>> I have no idea what you just tried to say :)  When you say ugly replacement,
>> are you talking about the current ugly icons or do you find Esteban's
>> suggested icons not appealing enough?
>>
> It is just an addition to my first statement. If we call the current icon set 
> medium in the sense of medium cutiness and medium memory consumption than 
> there is a new situation with the new nice icons. Igor is right, if the 
> vector world is coming to pharo then it is easy to make really good looking 
> icons in the image. But the memory consumption and CPU intensity will be 
> raised. That contradicts to usage of pharo in a server environment. So what I 
> was saying is that I think that the new icons are great. But then there 
> should be a replacement for it when the image is shrinked. The same happens 
> with the fonts if you shrink. And if the icons are replaced they could even 
> be replaced by something really basic that saves additional memory. On a 
> server with VNC or the like the icons aren't that important and maybe can be 
> removed completely.
>
> More clear now?
>
> Norbert
>
>

did i miss something? since when memory consumption for vector
graphics takes more space?
look at the size of .svg files and compare them with size of .png
files for same icons.
Vector data are much more compact.
So, actually if you really want to shrink things down, you need to
operate with vectors :)

More CPU for rendering vector graphics? Perhaps.
It is of course more expensive than just copying memory from one
bitmap to another.
But desktop environment requires a lot more complex operations that
just copying bits from one form over
another one.
And also consider the cases where you need to use 5 different
operations to simulate just one.
(look at famous corner rounder hack).


-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.

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