Am 24.04.2012 um 14:37 schrieb Igor Stasenko: > On 24 April 2012 14:13, Norbert Hartl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Am 24.04.2012 um 14:06 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano: >> >>> but, Norbert, I don't see the point. In a server you will not have (or >>> *should* not have) a display... so rendering time, etc. is non an issue, >>> because it will not be any... or I'm missing something? >>> >> I think most people using pharo on the server are using VNC to maintain >> them. I do that,too, in lack of a better tool. So in this case there is a >> display and there are icons. Rendering is not an issue as long as you >> suspend to UI thread until you need it. >> So, let me just repeat >> >> ...new icons.... cool! >> ...svg icons.....cool! >> ...removable icons...cool! >> >> That's basically all I wanted to say. >> > > and this is not preventing an operating systems from having even more > rich graphics and still use remote desktop connections? > i don't share your concerns.. because we're talking about different > terms of use. > for desktop applications we need a modern rich graphics and eye candy. > this not a question. > > for servers you can live perfectly with command-line tools only, and > pharoers also working in that direction.. > so it is not an exclusive choice where you should pick between one > over another. > you can have both: minimal memory footprint on server(s) and decent > graphics on desktop. i am talking about modular system, where you can > (un)load modules at your please, and we're moving towards it.
Igor, I didn't say there should be one approach and that you need to choose. I tried to make explicit that having options is a good thing. And that includes the joy of using a commandline for a server or not. You have no reason to decide for everyone that they should live with commandline tools on the server. I was talking about the near future and you reach far more off. Of course I like to have a tiny pharo image running on a server that lets me connect from my development image and lets me debug/inspect everything from remote where everything is either SVG or opengl. But I don't expect that to happen tomorrow or the day after. There is a need for short term solution. Or to make fun of a quote Don't obscure my reality with your future Norbert
