Who was the seller?  You are stating that they were guilty of fraud.  Did you 
sue them?  Small claims 
court works well and gets results.  The shipper also has a responsibility to 
have reasonable assurance 
that an item accepted for shipping is properly packed.  Did they inspect it?  I 
have been places where 
UPS inspected every package, no exceptions.  How is any of this the fault of 
Paypal?


On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:23:01 -0500, John Pisano wrote:

>Insurance claims were made with the shipper.  They would not pay because it
>was not packed correctly.  The bottom line is that this was the sellers
>fault.  They did not pack it correctly.  I did speak to them about how to
>pack it and they charged me for professional packing at a shipping center,
>and pocketed the money.  They had 100% positive feedback at the time.  They
>also refused to give me my money back.  

> 

>Given the facts what would you have done next if you were me?  Papal
>cancelled both of our accounts as well as the seller EBay account.  In my
>opinion they should go after the seller for the amount of the chargeback.
>They have all the documentation.  It is a very clear cut case.  Why cancel
>my account?  

> 

>They (EBay) have become too big and don't have enough competition.  EBay now
>owns a 25% share in Craigslist.  As much as I see room for improvement on
>EBay I still use their service because they own the online Auction market.
>If I want to get top dollar for my products I have to sell with them. 

> 
>I strongly disagree with your statement, "any trust issues with the company
>and/or process are just 

>needless paranoia".   I understand why you think like this.  Most Papal
>users probably will not experience any problems.  However if you ever do
>experience a problem with Papal I think you will change your tune.

> 

>As I have said in the past, the lesson I learned from this is - pay with
>your credit card (through Papal).  On high end purchases your credit card
>company may be your only recourse in a transaction gone bad.   

> 

>Enough said.  Let's talk about phonographs!!!

> 

> 

> 

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