Hello Bruce,
I am happy to hear that his wife enjoys collecting as well. I have no idea
what his collection had in it except for the late L and a few machines he told
me about. When you visit you can meet that L in person.
Steve
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:43:29 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers (Diamond B Serial Number &
> M Reproducer Serial Number)
>
> Thanks for the info, as far as I know Bill's wife Wendy, who is now
> Co-President of Mocaps (The Massachusetts Old Colony Antique Phonograph
> Society), still has his complete collection, and I have not heard that she
> has any intention (at least at this point) of parting with it. There is a
> meeting is a meeting scheduled at her house sometime in September.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:32:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers (Diamond B Serial Number &
> M Reproducer Serial Number)
>
> Hello Bruce,
>
> The serial numbers are hand stamped so the number size can vary. The
> lettering on the reproducers was machine stamped. Edison is the king of
> variety so I would love photos of your M and the serial number. I send you
> three e-mails with photos, let me know if you got them.
>
> The earliest M I know of has the flat K type weight with the serial number on
> the sound tube. The L and M share serial numbers, the L started off the
> series, the M joined in then dropped out and the L finished. The final L has
> the stylus bar held in with a pin not a screw. It was 10381, it was owned by
> Bill Floyd who was very nice about sending me photos. I wonder who would up
> with his collection?
>
> Steve
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 17:24:01 +0000
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers (Diamond B Serial Number
> > & M Reproducer Serial Number)
> >
> > Thanks for the Information Steve. The Serial Number on the Diamond B is
> > 21708. Also since you are the official guru of Serial Number details, the
> > serial number on the M Reproducer
> > on my Amberola 1A is 3810. Curiously the number 38 is much smaller than the
> > 10, like they may have been put on at two different time periods. This M is
> > the earlier style with the round
> > weight.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 12:27:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> >
> > Hello Bruce,
> >
> > I estimate that less than 2,000 of the N-56 reproducers were made. They
> > were optional for the V and VI's made before the fire when the regular N
> > was found not to work. They were obsolete reproducers made to play wax
> > Amberols. Edison still made and sold wax records until the fire although no
> > new 2 minute titles were made after Sept 1912. He was puzzled at what to do
> > about this until the fire did it for him. Wax records were easy to make and
> > very profitable.
> >
> > The two hardest to find N reproducers are the trowel weight and the N-56.
> > The N-56 was made from June 1913 to the fire of 1914. The trowel weight N
> > came out around the time the trowel weight O did and does not have the lift
> > pillar for the Amberola 5 and 6 lift lever as those machines were not yet
> > made.
> >
> > When the R and S reproducers were no longer made Edison used the tops
> > stamped with R and S serial numbers to make N-56 reproducers, thus the N-56
> > is found with R&S and O&N serial numbers.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:00:14 +0000
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > No, I don't have and N-56 for it to play the earlier wax amberolas. Those
> > > must be very uncommon. I will get you the serial number for the Diamond B
> > > though.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply,
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:52:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> > >
> > > Hello Bruce,
> > >
> > > What is the serial number of the reproducer on your machine and do you
> > > have a N-56 for it?
> > >
> > > I am trying to get an idea of serial numbers of the Diamond B reproducers
> > > from 1914.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:47:54 +0000
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> > > >
> > > > Do you have the same information on the Amberola V ? Mine is serial
> > > > number 845 .
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > From: "Andrew Baron" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:04:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Al for these serial numbers. It's great to be able to put my
> > > > Amberola 50 in context of the total production, not only of its own
> > > > model, but of the series as a whole.
> > > >
> > > > Andrew Baron
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 25, 2013, at 12:14 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The highest Amberola 30 I recorded is just below 344000. The highest
> > > > > Amberola 50 I have recorded is just over 43000. The highest Amberola
> > > > > 75 in my data mine is just over 21000. So, Steve Medved's reproducer
> > > > > number is in the ballpark for production figures...
> > > > > Regards to all,
> > > > > Al
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Andrew Baron <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 7:49 pm
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Steve ~ Do you have a sense of whether my nickel Diamond C
> > > > > reproducer 48233
> > > > > would be original to my Amberola 50 Serial #5662? Also, any idea when
> > > > > the
> > > > > Diamond C went from nickel to black paint (year and serial number,
> > > > > more or
> > > > > less)?
> > > > >
> > > > > At a glance it seems the serial number of my Diamond C is way too
> > > > > high for my
> > > > > machine unless one factors in the greater number of Amberola 30's
> > > > > being
> > > > > produced. Still seems like a high reproducer number for the 4-digit
> > > > > machine
> > > > > serial number, but I'd like to get your opinion. This Amberola 50 is
> > > > > otherwise
> > > > > one of the best-preserved I've seen, decent and original outside,
> > > > > mint under the
> > > > > lid, very quiet and smooth "low mile" motor, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew Baron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Aug 24, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> It is a fairly low serial number, I worked on Amberola 30 number
> > > > >> 137. My 50
> > > > > is SM - - - 7488. I believe the 30 50 and 75 all had their own serial
> > > > > numbers
> > > > > as 137 had reproducer serial number 307 on it. SM is spring motor and
> > > > > number
> > > > > 137 did not have that on the ID plate.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I believe just under 310,000 of the 30 50 and 75, 60, and 80's were
> > > > >> made as I
> > > > > have not seen a Diamond D reproducer over 310,000.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Steve
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:15:24 -0700
> > > > >>> From: [email protected]
> > > > >>> To: [email protected]
> > > > >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola 75 serial numbers
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hello all
> > > > >>> I just noticed that the Amberola 75 I purchased at the APS show a
> > > > >>> couple of
> > > > > weeks ago is serial numbered SM - - - 7072. The three dashes appear
> > > > > on the ID
> > > > > plate. I had not noticed this on other machines. Is this a low serial
> > > > > number?
> > > > >>> Also, the drawers do not have the clips for record boxes in them as
> > > > >>> did my
> > > > > last 75. I thought at first that the drawers were replacements, but
> > > > > on close
> > > > > inspection they seem to be original, with no screw holes for the
> > > > > clips. Can
> > > > > anyone enlighten me? Did the earlier machines not have the clips? Or
> > > > > did the
> > > > > earlier ones HAVE the clips and later ones don't?
> > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > >>> John Robles
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