On 12.03.2010, at 14:21, Pierre Joye wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Hannes Magnusson
> <hannes.magnus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:57, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jani Taskinen <j...@php.net> wrote:
>>>> jani                                     Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:09:37 +0000
>>>> Revision: http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=296076
>>>> Log:
>>>> Hello PHP 5.4, open for all new stuff.
>>> Instead of persisting into doing whatever you feel or want, what are
>>> you waiting for to revert your commits as requested numerous times
>>> already?
>> The numerous requests for moving trunk to branches/UNICODE_EXPERIMENT
>> is the reason.
>> There no reason to kill this branch. As soon as trunk has been moved,
>> this branch will become the next trunk/
> Confusions, wrong messages, bad suggestions, no reason to hurry up
> without a real plan, etc. Those are all very good reasons not to do
> it this way, especially not because someone had yet another crazy day.
> PHP really does not need such events, as our reputations about
> releases managements is slowly getting better...

Because no decision has been made. Jani is creating facts without basis. 
Furthermore normal development is continuing on the branches we decided to 
have. Now there is suddenly a 5.4. The point in time when we branch off a new 
trunk shouldn't be Jani deciding this because he is pissed off because there 
are open OB bugs.

So I am all for getting excited again about moving php forward, but lets not 
loose our head over this. Jani has done the first step in cleaning up his mess. 
The next step is removing _his_ 5_4 branch. I do not see this as negotiable and 
its not about proofing a point. Its simply not sensible to keep this branch and 
confuse the hell out of everyone.

Lukas Kahwe Smith

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