Good points all, and I was looking at the issue from a stand alone server, 
plus experience with only one ISP which provides MySQL services. The $50 
monthly fee still seems pretty steep.

Can you give us an idea of how RAM requirements scale with database size, 
and what is reasonable to expect?

How much time, if you have any idea at all, does MySQL demand in regular 

Regards - Miles Thompson

At 05:53 PM 3/12/01 -0800, Ron Brogden wrote:
>At 09:29 PM 3/12/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>>THE ROTTERS!!  They don't have to do ANYTHING to support MySQL except:
>>         1. Set up an empty database
>>         2. Assign it a username/password
>>         and, just possibly
>>         3. Provide the most elemental of scripts so you can do a bulk 
>> load, thereby creating your tables.
>>For that maybe a $50 one-time charge. $50 per month, never!
>Working for an ISP as I do, I take great exception to this post.  The $50 
>per month seems rather extravagant (highly depends what you get though) 
>but an extra monthly fee in itself is most definitely not ridiculous or 
>unwarranted.  Just because you can download the MySQL server for free does 
>not mean that maintaining the server is free.
>MySQL is essentially a "smart" file system which allows you to offload 
>disk usage into the MySQL database (depending on where the tables 
>reside).  If their pricing structure is disk space related, you can slide 
>content into MySQL without compensating the ISP for it.  For most 
>providers, a separate server will need to be setup just for MySQL 
>support.   On top of that, MySQL requires a stiff amount of RAM for 
>dealing with larger tables and is yet another service which needs to be 
>monitored on an ongoing basis.  Servers cost money and have a limited 
>lifespan.  Space, in a climatically controlled environment costs 
>money.  Backing up client data costs time and money.  As daemon's go it is 
>not horrifically difficult to take care of but still, it does take 
>resources and time and expecting this service for free is unreasonable.
>At most, you can claim that this company is unrealistic in their pricing 
>structure but there is no shame in charging for a service that costs real 
>money to maintain and support.
>IMHO of course.
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