Your reply makes a lot of sense.
But at this point I think I will bail!
Until PHP Win32 gets better support it is worthless to try to talk sense in
this forum!
At 04:29 AM 5/22/01 , you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Open source obviously will take a LONGER time because only programmers
that want
> to work for free will do it.
> Hobbyists and wanna be half ass lamerZ take up the rest of the slack.
Joel, I mean no offense here. But what people have been saying is
true: in the open source world, if you see something that needs
fixing, you have the opportunity to fix it. But the problem is if you
can't, you need to rely on someone else to do it for you. Of course,
if you are using something like ASP and you find a problem, you're in
the same situation either way: you have to submit your bug
report/feature request, and hope the company fixes it (whether or not
you are technically capable of fixing it). But while commercial
closed-source companies have a financial interest in responding to
customers, I've found that over the past 10 years open-source projects
(such as PHP) have responded *much* more quickly. In fact, on those
occasions when I rallied my admittedly rusty C skills enough to submit
a patch, if it hasn't caused random segfaults, it's often been
accepted. If everyone who has done the same were to be listed in the
credits, they would be insanely long.
The fact of the matter is that PHP was originally conceived for
*nix. The reason that there is a port to Windows at all is that
someone wanted one and did it. The fact that there isn't more intense
development of the Windows version could be due to the fact that there
are fewer people with the skills to execute the port who see a
personal need to do so. When you're putting in the kind of hours it
takes to do a job like that and you're not getting paid to do it, you
need a reason. :)
>
> Either you're on a religious OS mission or else forget it!
>
Nobody here is on a religious OS mission. I'm running Win98 at the
moment because it runs the tools I happen to currently need. But this
message is being written remotely on a Linux machine, because that's
where my preferred email client is. You choose the tool which does the
job.
You've said that you're a Delphi/Pascal programmer, and to forget
C. If you've already decided that you can't do C, well, I guess
that'll always be true for you. Argue for your limitations and *bam*
they're yours.
Personally, I really like Delphi for some things. Not for
everything. Same with PHP. Same with perl. C. C++. Scheme. Ruby.
Bash. Sed. Awk. C'mon, man, think about it. Who cares what tool you
use for what job?
> I'm going back to ASP!!
>
> lol
The above was a long-winded way of saying that if you've got a
problem, either help out, wait patiently, or bail.
> Michael Loftis wrote:
>
> > win32 support is and always has been admittedly lacking. I personally
don't
> > take it serious as a web serving platform, I have seen any number of sites
> > hit the wall hard when it comes to scaling with Win32 based
platforms. It's
> > suitable for testing and development maybe but not deployment.
> >
> > PHP has made best-effort to port to a badly screwed up platform. If
you have
> > a problem with the win32 port then work on it, submit patches. Thats
how the
> > open source model works.
> >
> > Sorry that your experience with PHP has been less than ideal. I'm not
an OS
> > bigot either, I freely hate Linux, and even BSD, Mac too, and Windows. I
> > believe though that each is right in certain areas.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Well I feel the need for another rant.
> > >
> > > <rant start>
> > >
> > > I reported several times about the bugs in the win32 mail() function.
> > > Over a year ago too.
> > >
> > > Well it looks like all the response that was given to it was about
in the
> > > nature of "don't know nothin about it 'cause I'm into linux".
> > >
> > > If you want to port to Windows you could at least get some win32
> > > programmers to do it right.
> > >
> > > <rant over.>
> > >
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