Hi, > we released 4.2.2 less than a week ago. If we release any new > package within 2weeks to a month, i feel it'll just infuriate system admins more. > People don't want to be installing new packages every week for the same product.
We were running 4.0.4pl1 for more than one year, then we needed some new features and installed 4.1.2, 4.2.0, 4.2.1. No! We did'nt want to install 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 bescause we liked to, or we needed any new feature or our sysadmin wanted to install this, we simple wanted to get a running enviroment. It was pure hell and it is still! These releases were'nt even able to do the most simple things like sorting arrays, creating files & directorys, diff'ing arrays and so on. > Of all the complaints i hear about PHP, one of the biggest is the > frequency of packages; it's too much for people to cope with. People don't have to install new releases every time but they do with PHP. Strange they don't do this with Apache, the Linux kernel or anything else. I don't know WHY people always think the *need* to update PHP, but it's clearly a problem of the admins not of PHP. Maybe it's a problem of PHP, then the only idea I have is that it is caused by bugs, bugs, bugs and people hope their bugs are fixed in the next release. > I suggest that if you want fixes, use snapshots or cvs... and we release > packages every few months which have been QA tested and are fit for > production use. That is _completely_ the wrong way. If I want a stable version of any software I use a release (Linux, Mozilla, Gimp, Win NT 4, MS Office 98, whatever you like). If I want features I take a snapshot (Linux 2.5 for USB 2.0 support, Mozilla for a download manager, Win XP, Office XP, etc.). Currently NO release is fit for production use. Neither does 4.0.4pl1 support today's software nor is it supported by PHP group anymore. It is'nt even downloadable from php.net-Website. Every release older than 4.0.4pl1 is buggy as hell. Does anyone of you expect 4.3.0 to be bug-free? No. Of course I don't expect a 4.2.3 bug free but at least it's a chance to have a release with a very little number of bugs. Regards, Sebastian Nohn -- +49 170 471 8105 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nohn.net/ PGP Key Available - Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/wishlist/3HYH6NR8ZI0WI/ -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php