On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:20 AM, haliphax <halip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Given the fact that Gears requires a client-side installation, has an
> awful penetration percentage, and his original solution is all
> server-side (though it does require APC and YUI-JS), I wouldn't say
> this is a very good suggestion. Compared to what he has already found,
> the Gears solution is not "clean" by any stretch of the imagination.

a) the native solution that requires APC is not multi-webserver capable
b) i was just sharing a different approach to an idea. who knows. it
might be something to explore. gears is pretty lightweight, and for
the ease of this and the functionality it brings (not to mention
cross-browser+platform) i see a compelling reason to give it a shot.
c) the APC method -still- requires webserver tweaks and post max size
etc. this is sending small chunks of data, is proxy-safe, and requires
nothing on the server; all that is required is gears, which is a
library to extend your browser's capabilities and i have not heard any
issues with it or security holes thus far. penetration is an issue but
when more sites push it and say "hey, you should install it" the
penetration will grow. not to mention youtube for example is using
roughly the same method and picking up a lot of browser installs off
that.

flash started out as a baby too. even java did (inside of browsers) ...

i completely disagree it is not "clean" - it is literally one browser
addon that a lot of people do have, comes from a reputable company,
and creates basically limitless upload capabilities - i can do 300 meg
files without blinking - it's not one long single POST that can fail
anytime, it's lots of small POST requests; it takes basic PHP on the
server and then some javascript for the UI (all the pieces to get a
basic functional install i sent links to)

how is that not "cleaner" than requiring the right version of apc,
hoping that one single long POST doesn't fail, etc?

our next version will include re-transmission on any chunk failure and
some other stuff, too. we're talking about literally any file size,
and even multiple file support, with the capability to retry on
failure so you -know- your file will get there, no matter if you're on
fast broadband or third world connectivity. we've dealt with issues
for years with people in geos having to send us links to files and
have us upload them for them... not anymore.

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