-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Crikey, you do go on don't you? My original point was not intended to flame newbies. Merely to point out that giving detailed explanations/answers to such questions as 'my .html file is showing my php code' repeatedly will not help newbies. Whereas a gentle push toward the manual will.
* On 19-01-02 at 11:31 * Richard Baskett said.... > I just don't understand all the intolerance some of the people on this list > show. We're not all as intelligent and wise in the arts of php/mysql/etc as > some of the members on this list are. One thing I do know is that we all > started from the beginning and had plenty of questions. We all think > differently also, which means, just because I look for two hours online for > an answer to my question doesnt mean everyone else does. That also means I > CAN look for two hours for an answer to my question while Joe Smoe over > yonder CAN NOT look for two hours for an answer, so he posts to the list > sooner than I do. Does that mean he should be flamed because of it? Nah > not in my opinion.. > > There have also been plenty of times where I have tried everything and I > just cant get it to work, so I ask, and when I get the answer back.. I hit > myself on the head and think ahhh dumb$#!t I should have know that! What > was I thinking! And then there have been times that friends who are much > better programmers than I am can't figure something out and I whip something > up quickly for them and they hit themselves on the head. We're fallible, > the sooner everyone understands that the more tolerance we'll have. Some > days are worse than others and hopefully someone will extend to you > tolerance on those days. > > I loved this list when September 11th rolled around, people became tolerant, > people became caring, people embraced people on this list. It was amazing.. > lots of love going around. I wish I could see that type of caring for > others all year long, not just until we forget that the person on the other > side of the email is human also and can be offended by our intolerance and > verbal assaults. > > Sure some questions could be solved with a little more research on the > php.net site or any other site, but hey give them a break, they'll learn > eventually.. hopefully.. :) Direct them to the page their answer is on and > it just might introduce them to a new way of learning. > > Just my two, three, four cents worth.. Where's the love? :) > > Rick > > "Work like you don't need the money. Dance like no one is watching. And love > like you've never been hurt." - Mark Twain > > > From: Shane Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:16:17 +0000 > > To: Richard Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick Wilson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [PHP] RTFM > > > > Hi > > > > Maybe this list should be split - kindof into a php-newbies and a > > php-advanced ? > > > > -- > > Shane > > > > On Friday 18 Jan 2002 9:39 pm, Richard Crawford wrote: > >> Consider yourself fried. ;-) > >> > >> Seriously, though, I think that there are more advanced PHP lists that > >> would probably be more to your liking. Try doing a search on php.net or > >> yahoogroups.com for something more technical. I, personally, joined > >> this list just over a year ago when I was assigned a project at work to > >> rebuild Phorum to work against my former company's custom database. The > >> respondents on this group were incredibly helpful; and most of the > >> responses to technical questions I've seen on this list have usually > >> included comments like, "This works because...", or "You can find more > >> information about this at...". > >> > >> I've found that this list is an excellent resource for beginners, as > >> well as an excellent place for advanced users to get quick answers to > >> urgent questions. > >> > >> Nick Wilson wrote: > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> just a very quick note: I've been following the list for about a > >>> week and I probably follow one or two threads a day. Some of the stuff > >>> here is *very* interesting. Unfortunately most of the stuff posted is a > >>> little ridiculous in that it's posted by people that clearly don't know > >>> where the online manual is located. > >>> > >>> Don't get me wrong, I'm no expert and I don't object to the 'I had a > >>> look but...' posts I just think the list might be a little more > >>> interesting if those that *really* know there stuff stopped giving > >>> detailed answers to Q's like 'my html page shows the php code' and were > >>> just a little less tolerant. > >>> > >>> Feel free to fry me. > >>> - -- > >>> > >>> Nick Wilson > >>> > >>> Tel: +45 3325 0688 > >>> Fax: +45 3325 0677 > >>> Web: www.explodingnet.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>> Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > >>> > >>> iD8DBQE8SJLTHpvrrTa6L5oRAg8SAKCLzzFk6i29BzABak9ezbtsVIIw9wCgnn4o > >>> +Evq2JM0f2FDj1O1WEvm82o= > >>> =NaDy > >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Nick Wilson Tel: +45 3325 0688 Fax: +45 3325 0677 Web: www.explodingnet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8SU8jHpvrrTa6L5oRAsjzAJ9tuVrsz9vtQpDYJDiQOq2j8NnhxwCghKC4 lxol5X4Gr5nmI9j1N6eH3X0= =oPw0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
