Sorry, maybe because of my english. But i try harder to make myself more clear.
I'm php programmer and make feel contributions to wikimedia, you see what i upload here <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&user=Webysther>. Is general, i submit things around me. The PR is about the last e-mails, is clear the visual identity have a problem and we/i/you fix this. And there are some ways I can suggest, which are: - Make a new visual identity without copyright; - Suggest a CC-BY-NC <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/> license explict on php.net/logos, compatible with the format that is described on the site, but unfortunately I can not put in Wikipedia. - Ask to creator to put on public domain or something. The fixes on /logos page is: - What exact colors represent the identity - SVG format link - Removal of outdated and proprietary formats sources, leaving formats such as SVG, PNG and JPG only enough for a wide range of conversion into other formats. About your last paragraph: I have no financial or any other intention than to improve the identity, but to make it clear, I will mention more examples: *Languages* Ruby (CC-BY-SA) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ruby_logo.svg https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/about/logo/ HHVM/HACK (CC-BY-SA) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Webysther_20160330_-_HHVM.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Webysther_20160330_-_Hack_(language).svg Java (f**k copyright sample, for your enjoyment) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Java_logo.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Java_logos PHP (wrong logo, poor quality about information e image) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PHP_Logo.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:PHP_icons It seems silly but it makes an incredible difference, I always have trouble with one or the other place and would be sad to see that even a simple logo the PHP community is complicated to handle. :( I understand your frustration, but understand that I am discovering a problem that gives you two ways to deal with: solve a positive way or just skip to become a bigger problem in the future. It is a choice of the gentlemen, in practice only leaves me with another not, which will not really change my life, after all ... While previous information... I put the logo like this one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_Grupo_Folha.svg This is SVG and is simple forms, but i put the information about possible copyright. The use is limited but possible. *Another suggest*: The PHP logo is only a simple shape using a commercial font. Maybe it's time to make a contest for a new logo? - Logo use commercial font - Shape is simple form - Color is not compatible to web, the website color is another. - The elephpant mascot is concurrent to postgresql, was is more old (~1995 http://goo.gl/VOJojP) Regards, Webysther Em sáb, 23 de abr de 2016 às 04:38, Hannes Magnusson < [email protected]> escreveu: > I don't know what that means. > > What exactly are you proposing? > I guess you can talk to Levi regarding that svg, but he has no claim > on the logo, and Colin hasn't been around for well over a decade. > > I imagine legally we need him to state that he forfeits any claims on > the logo and gives it to the PHP project. He actually has very > formally explicitly claimed otherwise, per his statements in commit > logs, website notes and elePHPant adventures. > He might even have a case to sue the PHP project itself for bundling > the logo as I can't find any records of him expressively allowing us > doing so, even though he commit some of the easter eggs himself. > > So what exactly are you looking for? Trying to stir shit up? Playing > pretend lawyers? > What is the end goal here? > > -Hannes > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Webysther Nunes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > OK. I made the change today in Wikipedia. :) > > > > Is possible in future submit a PR to make this better? Color information, > > formats, license and etc? > > > > > > Em qui, 21 de abr de 2016 02:27, Hannes Magnusson > > <[email protected]> escreveu: > >> > >> The logo isn't licensed under any CC license. > >> As I linked above, the license text hasn't changed since it was > >> created, 15 years ago: > >> > >> > https://github.com/php/web-php/commit/6afea913d6600dec355564b59d27990fa230fc97 > >> (Colin Viebrock is the original author). > >> > >> > >> As long as you aren't profiting off the logo, or intentionally making > >> it look like the PHP project is involved with whatever project/product > >> it is used to, the use is fine. > >> > >> For commercial things, its complicated. Lots of people sell > >> merchandise with the php logo, and the logos@ alias was removed > >> ~decade ago. > >> > >> > >> -Hannes > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Webysther Nunes <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > We can use a SVG and say that it is geometric information but states > >> > that > >> > may be under copyright. My concern is to add a logo and need to remove > >> > all > >> > if someone claim the copyright, for example, if the logo was on a page > >> > on > >> > php.net as CC-BY-SA could put the URL as a source and use safely. My > >> > fear is > >> > to not bring harm to anyone. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Webysther Nunes > >> > > >> > > >> > Em qua, 20 de abr de 2016 22:44, Hannes Magnusson > >> > <[email protected]> escreveu: > >> >> > >> >> http://php.net/download-logos.php > >> >> > >> >> Logo license wasn't a thing when it was created, so it has a "custom > >> >> license". > >> >> I can't imagine a way wikipedia could be breaking that license as > >> >> mentioned on the above page. > >> >> > >> >> If you can describe in a sentence what you are worried about I can > >> >> give you a definitive yes/no if that helps. > >> >> > >> >> -Hannes > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Webysther Nunes < > [email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Great, we use this one with possible restrictions. You know who > >> >> > create > >> >> > the > >> >> > first one logo? > >> >> > > >> >> > If you do not know, we can do something else. If a group leader can > >> >> > release > >> >> > as creative commons through an email that I can provide, you can > >> >> > distribute > >> >> > more widely the use of the logo only. I can provide more > information > >> >> > about > >> >> > how this type of license, just let me know if you need to. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > Webs > >> >> > > >> >> > Em ter, 19 de abr de 2016 19:47, Levi Morrison > >> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >> > escreveu: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Webysther Nunes > >> >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > Hello, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I volunteer in Wikipedia and realized I do not have a logo PHP > SVG > >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> also > >> >> >> > no license to use, I wonder if someone could help us to provide > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > logo > >> >> >> in > >> >> >> > SVG and a license for unrestricted use. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Category on Wikimedia > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:PHP_icons (is > possible > >> >> >> > we > >> >> >> > create a new and better one) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Mostly used logos: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PHP-logo.svg > >> >> >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PHP_Logo.png > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Not good enough, about information, license and author. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Regards, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Webs > >> >> >> > https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Webysther > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > *Webysther Nunes* > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The logo used on the website is available in SVG format: > >> >> >> http://php.net/images/logos/php-logo.svg > >> >> >> > >> >> >> But I am not entirely sure on the license for it. While I authored > >> >> >> that SVG I really only took what was on the website and turned it > >> >> >> into > >> >> >> SVG, so I'm not sure who the "creative mind" is or what the > >> >> >> licensing/copyright restrictions are. > >> >> >> > >> >> > -- > >> >> > *Webysther Nunes* > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Webysther Nunes > > > > -- > > Webysther Nunes > -- *Webysther Nunes*
