> I only see fonts (or infos about fonts + fonts) being retrieved from
> fonts.googleapis.com, no CSS,
True, its the font, not the CSS.
> Although I may agree with this tracking defect, I guess retrieving
> them from a CDN speeds up the page load for browsers that already have
> retrieved the fonts for another website.
My understanding of the theory:
- That is only a slight speed up on the first visit.
- For all cdr visits the browser makes GET/HEAD and receives a 304 Not Modified.
I checked with Firefox DevTools (F12 -> Network Tab):
- in my case, the font file is actually delivered every time (200, not 304
- the first two font requests "css?family=Exo:500,300" and
"css?family=Open+Sans:300,300italic,400,600,600italic" are each taking around
these requests that take the longest together with "js.l" delivered from
picolisp.com, but "js.l" is like 270 times bigger
- so in my case, the Google CDN is not speeding up anything, I would guess the
lisp webserver might actually be faster, though your mileage might vary
depending on your network distance to the picolisp.com server
- testing with Firefox DevTools, I see a 404 Not found for
"http://picolisp.com/wiki/wiki/css/typhography.css", but I'm not sure where
this one is linked in the page
- Nowadays, especially with the client-heavy "stylish" websites, the bottleneck
is usually the Rendering, not the network (can be different for mobile network)
- I check this with the Firefox PlugIn "app.telemetry Page Speed Monitor",
according to that:
-- Page fully loaded after 6030ms
-- 5633 ms of that is spent in Processing (Rendering), not in network
(- yep, I've got fast internet, so your mileage could differ, but I think the
overall pattern will most likely be the same)
- Doesn't look like picolisp.com is benefiting from Google CDN.
- picolisp.com is not page with much traffic, so CDN is not needed (ok, maybe
when we get slashdotted, but then the fonts will not make much a difference)
- in my personal experience, picolisp webserver is usually vastly faster
compared to other dynamic website stacks (php, python, ruby...), though I don't
have real benchmark data to prove this (so might be wrong)
----- Original Message -----
From: Christophe Gragnic [mailto:christophegrag...@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:11:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Redesigned Wiki is Live
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:49 PM, <andr...@itship.ch> wrote:
> Please host the stylesheets on
> picolisp.com instead of using tracking CDN.?
I only see fonts (or infos about fonts + fonts) being retrieved from
fonts.googleapis.com, no CSS,
Although I may agree with this tracking defect, I guess retrieving
them from a CDN speeds up the page load for browsers that already have
retrieved the fonts for another website.
I'm no expert, maybe someone here can clear things up?
> Elsewhere-link at the bottom of main page
> -> why not generate here a link at random from a predefined list?
> -> like a list of links of repos/pages of picolisp-projects ? and the
> picolisp wikipedia article?
Nice idea ! I don't quite like this link pointing abruptly to
google.com too, especially for no real interesting reason.
All this said, this is great great work. Many thanks !!!
http://profgra.org/lycee/ (site pro)
http://delicious.com/profgraorg (liens, favoris)
http://microalg.info (langage de programmation pédagogique)
http://expressions.club/ (structure des expressions mathématiques)