On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Dean Michael Berris wrote:
No. You keep telling me that I'm misrepresenting it while I keep
making points that are grounded to the bill. READ THE SECTION ON
MANDATORY FOSS (Section 6) UNLESS THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE. If this is
not prejudice, I don't know what is.
You're right. You DON'T know what prejudice is.
The bill mandates a standard based on freedom and transparency. The very
same principles upon which democratic is founded. It odes not favor any
technology or source of software. It DOES, however, fasvor any technology
or software that gives certain freedoms and facilitates transparency. Now
if you think that's prejudice then the entire idea of democratic
government, which is BIASED IN FAVOR OF FREEDOM AND TRANSPARENCY, is
prejudiced. Yeah right.
How can it be a bias for freedom when you're mandating FOSS only be
used in government systems unless there is no other alternative?
Becasue FOSS promotes freedom. You seemt o think freedom is about
unrestrcited choice. It's not. That';s why democtrstic government pass
laws. They restrict choices to thoswe that actually promote freedom and
public good. You simply have a simplistic and wrong concept of freedom.
FOSS IS NOT FREEDOM. FOSS pertains to Free and Open Source Software.
SOFTWARE IS NOT FREEDOM, and the bill has nothing to do with freedom
but has everything to do to push FOSS down the government's throat
That's plain bull. The bill is ALL ABOUT FREEDOM. It does not mandate any
technology or source of software. It mandates a preference for ANY
software that promotes certain freedoms and facilitates transparency.
The Philippine Constitution recognizes the Rights of the People. The
rights give you LIBERTIES, and freedom pertains to the free exercise
of these liberties. The constitution protects your rights and your
freedom to exercise the liberties granted to be inherent to the
constituency.
The FOSS licenses do something very similar, or haven't you read them?
The only misrepresentation happening here is you claiming to think
that you know what the bill is exactly saying. And that you are the
authority which determines who is wrong/right.
No. Your statements cleaqrly misrepresent what the bill states.
What is the agenda I'm pushing?
Commercial interests perhaps? That's why you're so against source code
being shared by the government to the people. Some transparency you've got
there.
My objection is the mandating of FOSS to be the default choice without
due process on a case to case basis.
That's like saying that for the government to pass a law that favors
freedom, we have to debate the value of freedom all over again, on a
case-to-case basis. Get real. The FOSS bill is favorable to any technoligy
or source that allows the government to have certain freedoms when it uses
software. That is the point you conveniently gloss over. And it's just not
honest.
Unless you can come up with a better argument than "Mandating Freedom
by Mandating FOSS", I don't see why I should waste my time even trying
to explain what I've been pushing for since day 1.
The truth hurts. Live with it.
If the above C++ code was licensed under the GPL, any competent lawyer
can argue that it can be modified to become pretty much _anything_ to
solve pretty much _any software requirement government has_ --
therefore any argument for the procurement of proprietary software IS
A JOKE.
That's FUD. You know as well as I do that software cpntaining a few code
snippets is NO going to cut it as being qualified as per the FOSS bill.
It's nice for FUDmeisters, but you're not going to convince anyone who
understands anyhting about the effort it takes to write software.
Knock off the FUD and stick to the real issues, Dean. You might then come
up with a real argument.
In fact, I'll give you a hint: try criticizing the FOSS bill on the
grounds of academic freedom (there's a bit in the bill about mandating
counterpart FOSS courses). You may make some headway. And I have no
objection to removing that part of the bill either.
That would be more honest on your part.
God bless!
--[Manny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Member: Philippine League for Democratic Telecommunications
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