ukslim wrote: 
> Not to defend the BBC to firmly, because this is a debacle, however:
> 
> I think it's important that we all keep in mind the conflicting demands
> the BBC has. Many of their programs contain licensed content (easiest
> example: music) that they're only allowed to broadcast under certain
> terms -- and one of those terms is that it's not in a format that a
> member of the public can grab and keep forever.
> 
> Notable exceptions are podcasts, and if you look at them, you'll see
> that they're almost entirely original material rather than "someone
> playing records". Sometime Kermode and Mayo play some music in their
> podcast, and they have to follow hilarious rules about how much they can
> play before having to talk over it.
> 
> We all know that if some Open Source software can *play* a stream then
> it can *record* a stream just as easily, and there's basically no way
> around that.
> 
> So there's a little dance of using something that purportedly adds DRM,
> while knowing that any *real* DRM would cripple open source players
> (which is not acceptable to listeners) and anything that's easily
> playable on an open source player isn't proper DRM (which is not
> acceptable to content-owners).
> 
> The compromise has always been to find something that everyone can
> pretend is proper DRM, while knowing that really it's not. Every now and
> again we have to go through some pain, either because someone decides to
> stop paying for a technology (WMA apparently) or because someone decides
> to make waves by pointing out to a content-owner that the DRM isn't
> actually secure.
> 
> When this settles down, we'll be back to square one, with another
> non-DRM DRM, and we can relax for a while.
This can't be right.  The onus has always been on the user not to record
things for public performance, or to keep for an extended period.  There
never has been anything the BBC could do to stop people recording
things.  My Dad used a reel-to-reel tape recorder.  DRM wouldn't have
worked then, and still won't unless they switch off all analogue radio.

This isn't even about open source, squeezebox or anything else is it? 
If they provide a method of playing through a browser (however
proprietary) then other proprietary software from Windows, Apple or
whoever, can record it.

So the BBC should make sure they repeatedly remind people of their
reponsibilities.  To pretend that all is secure is just a joke.  Surely
there would be lawyers swarming round if there was a serious concern?



LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16->24 bit,
44.1->192kbps. LMS & Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  Minimserver (server) & upplay (control
point) to same renderers & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  Squeezelite to
Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones.  Wireless Xubuntu 14.04
laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.   Have a Touch
with EDO, and a spare, but don't use.
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