I completely agree with the things when poi-build used Centipede.

For me (translator), it was a pain, too. PAIN PAIN PAIN!!
I had to learn how to deal with Anakia (Velocity and Ant, XSLT), Maven
and Centipede. Unbelievable!  ... Jakarta is missing *consistency*

But, imagine. All the avalon, xml. ws-projects are using forrest and
forrest bot.  ... If we fail building the site and it is due to the
bugs of forrest, all the xml, ws, incubator-sites also fail buiding the
sites!! We do not have to investigate the root of the *evil* ! :D

Simple.... I love these kind of simpleness and smartness.

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:46:38 -0400
(Subject: Re: new forrest live site)
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If he follows through which isn't a given.  You're taking this as a single
> case.  I'm thinking the next time...and the time after than...and 3 weeks
> after that ;-)
> 
> Big pain.  Drives me nuts.
> 
> 
> On 7/17/03 8:45 AM, "Tetsuya Kitahata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Sorry, Andy. I could not understand what drove you nuts.
> > 
> > I think things will be very simple. Jeff offered us the patches for it,
> > and we can accept them. So, we can build the poi website as well as
> > all of the xml.apache.org sites and incubator, etc.
> > 
> > For me, this seems very simple.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > 
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> > 
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:35:42 -0400
> > (Subject: Re: new forrest live site)
> > "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Man this drives me nuts.  That�s why I didn't want to use forrest.  Lessons
> >> learned from Centipede: the more dependencies your build has the more often
> >> it breaks.  $20 says they never really make it to 1.0.
> >> 
> >> You wonder why I constantly ask "do we need this dependency" when someone
> >> tries it?  Because its a PAIN IN THE BUTT to manage dependencies.  Every
> >> dependency adds a brittle link.  I like POI to stay simple and layer the
> >> dependencies on top of it rather than under it.
> >> 
> >> -Andy


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