They would probably have to sell it for 800 plus or 600 at the very least. I
would hesitate to spend that on an eight year old motherboard.

RHB

> From: Bolton Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Power Computing List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:44:33 -0800
> To: "Power Computing List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: A new Powerbase Graphics Card? + history lesson
> 
> Aaron wrote:
> 
>> Oops! As a PTP user, I forgot that the Powerbase takes a maximum of 160 MB
>> RAM. Seems to be designed similarly to the Motorola StarMax clones in this
>> respect, although they don't take EDO DIMMs of the same voltage.
>> 
>> I'm surprised that none of the companies that make G3/G4 cards for these
>> machines have figured out a way to add more memory. Anybody know why?
>> 
>> - Aaron
>> 
> I've wondered why as well.  In the Amiga world, accel makers always hung
> RAM onto the accelerator card itself, and often times a faster (than
> what the Amiga had built in) SCSI interface as well.  This did wonders
> for the machine.  I wondered myself why Sonnet, when making their 800MHz
> Crescendo accelerators, didn't hang a RAM interface and a DIMM socket on
> that great big board.  Its not like there isn't room, and although it
> would make the mobo essentially a PCI backplane, it would make for one
> HOT PCI powermac in the RAM access department.  Sonnet did it for the
> 7200 accelerator, I always wondered why they never carried that on to
> higher end cards.  Then they could go all Phase5 and implement their own
> custom connector which hooked up to its own custom Radeon 9200 in a PCI
> slot or elsewhere.  But then they could make an accel/graphics card
> combo that would embarass Apple's own new G4 offerings, probably pissing
> Apple off and potentially infringing on the no-clone rules.  Essentially
> it'd be a whole new computer within a computer.  Hey, a guy can dream,
> right;-)
> 
> Phase5, german maker of Mac and Amiga accelerators and so on, made a
> card called the Cyberstorm PPC for the Amiga 3/4000 computers. It had a
> 68040 or 68060 on the same board as a 604 available at various speeds,
> plus its own RAM controller and four 72 pin SIMM slots, plus a Symbios
> UW SCSI port.  68K Amiga OS screamed on that card, and its Mac emulation
> using the 060 side alone was by far faster than any real 68K Mac, faster
> in some areas even than the first 601 based PowerMacs.  There was a
> PowerMac emulation in the works, but it never worked quite right-much to
> the consternation of the people who pre-paid for it and never got it.
> This was somewhere in the earlier CRT iMac era, btw.
> 
> if someone would make a 1.4GHz CPU card for these machines, with its own
> RAM and an option for its own video, I think they'd sell in pretty large
> numbers.  It'd be a great 'poor man's powerMac' and for the price of a
> mini, you could have a big box PCI Mac.
> 
> Bolton
> 
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