Mikael Byström sez: >Fair Enough. But every community needs a memory. Maybe a concerted >community effort to persuade CTM to keep listarchives or make sure a >third party keeps one could perhaps avoid that good knowledge is spread >for the wind and prevent old things, thought to be "known by all" to keep >reappearing.
This is an excellent suggestion. I looked into online mail archiving setups thinking I might take on the duty myself, actually, but then I began to get a little worried about legal ramifications. My biggest problem was figuring out if I should obscure email addresses in some way to prevent SPAMmers from skimming the database for them. I believe if I set the archive up using a database system like FMPro and Lasso or similar, that wouldn't be an issue. Easier to automate setups, like HTML archivers and most mysql-based archivers I found I thought would be easy to skim. Then I started to wonder what would happen since CTm wouldn't necessarily say in the sign up message to the list that the mail was archived, and some folks may not want to be in the archive -- or they may wish to get rid of some of their more inglorious moments. :) Then I began to wonder if I should edit out some of the chatter and leave just suggestions and ideas, but then I would be taking on a greater responsibility -- although it would save me money in space and bandwidth. So, I let my little project fall by the wayside. So, what do others think? I am willing to take the idea up again and build it and host it myself. I could start out with everything then have information on the archive pages about how to contact me for changes, edits to email addresses, etc. I would likely be doing the moving of email from the list to the archive myself until I built the scripts to take it directly from mail itself -- one archiving solution I found actually has the PERL or whatever scripts to do this, I think. But at that point I could likely modify them to account for special cases. Whatever the case, I have just over 5000 PM List messages going back to January 2002 which I could dump into the archive right away. (And remove from my PM database :) ) Thoughts, ideas? doesn't matter? -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com

