On 29/7/04 4:38 PM, Mike Russell wrote

> Ironically, the lack of interest in other colleagues in their learning
> proces will eventually lead  to more business to yourself.
> 
> 
> Unless their low level of professionalism undermines the confidence in
> the process we've spent years creating.
> 
> I've no problem with newbies trashing the low end market, but it is a
> problem if it attacks mine.

Dear Mike.

If the above statement is correct when talking about digital files from
cameras, I can bet it was -and still is - much worse with the many guys
scanning their 35mm film in flatbed  household Epson scanners and the like
and producing 100 Mb files from a fraction of the original slide. I would
agree with customers in rejecting material provided from photogs from such
workflow, scanning being a more delicated and compromised area of work for
those who are not real experts.

In my own experience I have  found some problems at the printing stage
related to files, even  from"professional" scans made from my  slides by
third parties ( since the very begginning I decided I would not embark in
burning my time setting up a scanning digital darkroom after I flushed my BW
darkroom for good) compared to problems with files from cameras, which up to
now -and I knock on wood- are just plain zero.

Being an outstanding  Pro will  distinguish from the crowd and sooner or
later it shows. Now, newbies( and not so newbies as well)  trashing the
market may do it via poor digital skills or just plain old poor business
practices(lowballing and the like),which is still worse, and unfortunately
this will  always be there. Comes with the job.
 But when I face competition from a guy with a Sony Cybershot who bought
"just last week" to keep up with the trends,  much sooner than later  I end
up getting the jobs bouncing back at me.  And if If someone is getting a job
and is using such cybershot, then I am not interested in such client anyway.

OTOH, When I deal with people who flatly  refuses and under no circumstance
would  accept digital, I just dust off my film cameras and film it is. It's
happened 4 times in 3 years, the last one being the reproduction of
paintings with the Sinar 4x5 last month, due to Gallery requirements.I shot
digital just  as well( to avoid the expenses of Polaroid film) and now they
are using the digital files much more than the big slides. I have won a new
"digital customer" all the way.

Now, your proposal to invite AOP (and why not, other groups) to exchange
info about proposed standards is  a fine idea, and indeed a subject that is
better handled through organizations instead of individuals. Can you promote
some of your AOP and other org's  fellows into this ?

Best

Jorge Parra


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