Certainly, Rick, I was only speaking for myself and our company. I long ago
decided that conferences were invaluable to my career and knowledge (and now
it's good business). I would agree that I might represent the minority, but
we minorities have a voice, too ;)

I would say that, given the decline in the pure numbers of Fox developers
out there, we were sure to see a decline in conference attendance, perhaps
even precipitously. In that climate, it would be difficult to draw
conclusions based on any one single cause (the rise of Internet content, for
example); I'm sure the reality is more complex. 

In my direct experience with my own clients (9 possible attendees) here in
Atlanta, all of which chose not attend (despite my repeated cajoling), the
common thread is cost and time constraints. Many companies continue to miss
the value of training and many employees have family obligations that
preclude multi-day trips. Many employees also care little about their work
outside the hours of 9 to 5.

I attend several large conferences outside the Fox community (SQL PASS, RFID
Journal Live, SpeechTek) and I would say that the attractiveness of
networking is even more pronounced at these conferences than at smaller
ones. Just my own observation; in fact I probably spend less than half my
time in sessions at these events. It's how I get the most for myself out of
a conference.

Dave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Schummer

I believe you are in the minority. In fact I believe most people on this
forum are already in the minority just by participating in the online
community. It has been estimated that only 10-15% of Fox developers hang out
online. Even fewer are attending conferences.

My assertion is 50% of conference benefits are the materials presented and
50% is the networking. Granted each developer will vary. There are other
factors like costs, location, accessibility, etc. that factors into what
draws a person to conferences in general. They likely help determine the
location one might select if travel costs are an issue. 

The number one reason people don't attend conferences is the direct
availability of content on the Internet. A distant second is cost. This is
based on direct feedback I have received from developers. The facts are
plain and simple. Conference attendance has gone down year after year and
content on the Internet has gone up. I meet people at every conference who
are surprised to learn the networking is such a big benefit. Everyone who
attends a conference knows this is a huge benefit. 

If we use the arguments presented on this thread: it has nothing to do with
content . Lets just say it boils down to 100% networking. We make all the
content available online. No problem (and in fact I am not totally against
this). All that is left for conferences to draw is the networking. Well, all
I have to do is turn online. I have ProFox, FoxForum.com, Foxite.com, the
UT, Open Tech, Tek Tips, phone numbers and email to my friends, etc. to get
all the networking I need. 

So now conferences have zero draw. They all disappear. Now the community has
a gap. Or maybe not!

So now we are asking people in the community to spend an enormous amount of
time to establish a white paper to post on their web site for all to share.
Cool. But I am guessing this will rarely happen because there is no deadline
to meet. 

This is just one possibility.

I believe Kevin's asked the most important question: How much would it hurt?

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.rickschummer.com
586.254.2530 - office
586.254.2539 - fax
  





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave
Bernard
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 03:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FoxForward -- thanks

I couldn't agree more with Michael about the networking; that's the biggest
value for me
and our company. No matter the material available via screencast, it
wouldn't change my
conference plans one nit.

-----Original Message-----

>
> Rick Schummer recently blogged about screencasts and how it may 
> actually hurt Fox conferences by removing the need to attend.  I see 
> his point. The question is ... how much would it hurt?  Perhaps we're 
> worrying about nothing at all?  Or could it kill a conference or two?

While I can see his point to a degree, I doubt it would kill a conference.
The
screencasts are nice, but they don't replace the conference experience, and
certainly not
the networking and comradery
(sp?) that happens.




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