> Can you give me and pluses that come with using 100% non fee software over
> counterpart that require a fee?
>

First of all, I had no idea Ed had begun to migrate more toward PostgreSQL
from MySQL because of the license issues (dual license).  It is one of the
main reasons I opted to not use MySQL, just to make certain I would not run
afoul of any fees owed when deploying my app to clients using MySQL on the
back end.  I know Ed did not criticize my basis for that decision, but to
see he has also chosen to go in the same direction adds even more confidence
in my decision than before.

Now, to answer Stephen's question...  In my world having the ability to
deliver a low cost, high impact solution to a client is crucial.  When I am
able to tell a client or prospect that I am using a back end database that
requires no additional license fees up front or ever (especially fees to
Microscoff) I get zero pushback.  Of course, I tell them about how much a
SQL Server or Oracle license fee would be in comparison.  If I were to tell
them they had to pay $600 per year (or whatever it is for MySQL now) for a
SQL database I would have a much tougher sale than providing a database for
free.  Plus, by not having to pay the fees there is that much more on the
table I can then push toward myself if I felt compelled to do so (I do not
do that currently).

Granted, the MySQL license fee is peanuts when compared to full blown M$ SQL
Server or Oracle (or any of the other "big boys".  But getting the same, or
substantially similar, punch on a No Fee basis from a mature, stable and
fast solution makes it very easy for me to toss my hat into the PostgreSQL
ring.  Stated otherwise, it would be real hard for anyone to convince me I
ought to do otherwise, even if the "big boys" do have some high end features
PostgreSQL may (or may not <g>) be lacking.  Those would likely be features
I would not need for my purposes anyway.

Finally, just because PostgreSQL works well in my application and business
model does not mean it is the solution for all persons or situations.  I am
just fortunate that I was not tied down by one of the fee based
alternatives, facing some heavy duty recoding to migrate from SQL
Server/Oracle/etc. to PostgreSQL - even though it would certainly be worth
it.


Gil



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Russell
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Design Question
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> >
> > > Why do you constantly define the COMPANY as the most important
> > > aspect of the
> > > software or tool?
> >
> >         I said the exact opposite, and it's disingenuous to suggest
> > otherwise. The licensing *is* critical, and Microsoft isn't the only
> > company that comes up short in this regard. I use both MySQL and
> > PostgreSQL, but the licensing issues have made me switch to Postgres
> > as my default database server.
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Licensing is a part of life for the world Ed.  You have to
> license yourself
> to drive and register and pay a fee to license your vehicle(s).
>
> Can you give me and pluses that come with using 100% non fee software over
> counterpart that require a fee?
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> Mimeo.com
> Memphis TN
>
> 901.246-0159
>
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