Ian, thank you for uploading and creating a lab. I've downloaded it from svn and used it in jqt 8. I was uncertain how to get started from the wiki page that referenced it. The lab, test file, and tte.ijs makes it immensely more clear to me. I've only used it a bit and found it to be very helpful for a beginner such as myself.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > I can that you can commit changes to svn, can you explain why you cannot > change the lablist.txt? > > On 19 Sep, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It's okay Bill, I've located the one verb I've used in misc.ijs and > copied > > it into tte.ijs. > > > > It works fine now in JQt. > > > > But to run: tte.ijs -needs this line inserting in lablist.txt: > > Debug;Explicate a given tacit verb;~addons/debug/tte/tte.ijt > > > > open '~addons/labs/labs/lablist.txt' NB. -to do the hand-edit > > > > but I don't know how to fix lablist.txt via svn. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:33 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Try load the specific script inside the specific misc folder > >> > >> require '~addons/.../misc/....ijs' > >> > >> On 19 Sep, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Further to this, I've uploaded a new addon: 'debug/tte' > >>> > >>> used like this: > >>> require 'debug/tte' > >>> mytacitverb tte > >>> > >>> Studio > Labs --shows a new lab under Category: Debug: > >>> Explicate (convert to explicit) a given tacit verb > >>> > >>> Or you can get some rough'n'ready documentation with: > >>> ABOUT_tte_ > >>> > >>> At present it only works under j602. When I try it under j64-801 it > fails > >>> because: > >>> require 'misc' > >>> is no longer supported, giving the error: not found: > >>> /Applications/j64-801/bin/misc > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks Ian. trace looks helpful too. I hadn't stumbled upon that yet. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Joe Bogner asks: > >>>>> " Is there a utility to generate an explicit definition from a tacit > >>>>> definition?" > >>>>> > >>>>> There've certainly been attempts at one. There hasn't been any > >> published > >>>>> improvement on this one by Zsban Ambrus: > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/TacitToExplicit > >>>>> ...though I've had an add-on on the stocks, waiting to get properly > >>>> tested > >>>>> for almost a year now. (Sorry... it was low priority.) > >>>>> > >>>>> I also wrote a "roadmap" a year ago to pull together all the relevant > >>>> stuff > >>>>> on jwiki... > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Guides/Tacit_to_explicit_roadmap > >>>>> ...but I notice I didn't finish it (it needs to mention Ambrus's > "tte", > >>>> and > >>>>> it's incomplete in "Approach #2"). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'm learning the evaluation rules for tacit expressions, since that > is > >>>>>> what's commonly posted as solutions. Is there a utility to generate > an > >>>>>> explicit definition from a tacit definition? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For example, to generate a tacit expression from explicit > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 13 : '(+/ y) % # y' > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +/ % # > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there some routine to expand that out? (I've now learned that > its a > >>>>>> fork). It seems possible that it could expand out to multiple > >> possible > >>>>>> variants -- since as I understand, it's a reduced form. I've looked > at > >>>>>> fndisplay but didn't put too much time into it yet since I wasn't > sure > >>>>> that > >>>>>> it's what I was looking for. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Along those same lines, j6 shows a representation of an expression > in > >>>>> boxes > >>>>>> which I've found to be helpful to understand how an expression is > >>>>> grouped. > >>>>>> I haven't seen that same functionality in j7 or j8. Does it exist? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I find myself spending a fair amount of time taking an expression > and > >>>>> then > >>>>>> looking up its parts in the Vocabulary to understand what its doing. > >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>>> > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
