Thanks for the excellent feedback Ian,

I'm wondering if there are really two different flavours that are required for 
the animations. 

One would be for reference, no more than 15-20 seconds to remind a more 
experienced user how the verb/conjunction/adverb/noun works. In the case of + 
(plus) this might be a matrix/vector example that would emphasize the result 
and the fact that the natural rank is 0 0 after the argument frames have been 
matched. Newbies would not be expected to learn this way, but it may serve as a 
good reminder. 

The second version would be longer, with more cases (and audio) to list the 
different possibilities in order of complexity. This could run up to 3 minutes 
and would be a bit more like a lesson. Having one form try and serve both 
groups, seems like a poor idea, since the motivations and backgrounds are so 
different.

Your thoughts?

Cheers, bob

On -Feb7-2010, at -Feb7-20102:22 PM, Ian Clark wrote:

> Yes! Proves the concept.
> 
> Marginal preference for putting the dumbells one over the other, to
> line them up. But not if novices complain this looks too much like a
> school addition sum (when Carry would be expected).
> 
> Speed it up. >1 min too long IMO for an animation embedded in on-line
> reference manual. 12-15 s.
> 
> Vector doesn't need to be introduced in steps, but all at once. The
> extended scalar does benefit from appearing in steps, suggesting a
> count taking place.
> 
> Music for a standalone presentation: yes. For embedding in a reference
> page: no. I think the animation(s) could serve both purposes. Maybe to
> run at different speeds.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 4:15 PM, bob therriault <bobtherria...@mac.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the sustained effort Ian et al,
>> 
>> Speaking of content rich. Here is a test for animating the + (plus) verb 
>> with a variety of arguments. There is no audio (yet!) as this needs to be 
>> timed carefully and requires the animation to be locked down.
>> 
>> I welcome comments, this is a first pass.
>> 
>> + (plus) animation
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfvs8o5kmyg
>> 
>> Cheers, bob
>> 
>> On -Feb7-2010, at -Feb7-201012:50 AM, Ian Clark wrote:
>>> 
>>> As we compose these content-rich pages, the requirements for the
>>> template will gradually emerge. But no sweat if we don't get it right
>>> first time. So I suggest we just go ahead. Now!
>>> 
>>> 
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