I'm planning to do the flag name change to the node_exporter soon. I also am not sure about blackbox/whitebox.
How about this proposal: replace "whitebox" with "internal". This better describes what we really mean, removes the black vs white connotations, and simplifies the change. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:03 PM Julius Volz <julius.v...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Good motivation, personally I think that kind of replacement is a good > thing to do with blacklist/whitelist (as is happening with flag names in > the Node Exporter). But I don't know how people feel about blackbox / > whitebox yet, as it doesn't carry the same negative/positive association > with colors. It would mean more invasive changes, like renaming the entire > repository and related documentation web pages, and potential Google > findability confusion (old blog posts etc. mentioning the old name). > > I haven't heard blackbox/whitebox crop up in the same way as e.g. > blacklist/whitelist yet, but would be interested to affected Black people's > opinion on whether this seems troublesome as well. If this turns out to be > offensive to affected people, that'd be a good argument for renaming it IMO. > > Julius > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM Frederic Branczyk <fbranc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to propose to change all occurrences and namings within the >> Prometheus project of whitebox and blackbox monitoring. In itself the term >> Black >> box <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box> doesn't seem to come from >> a racist background, but I think it's problematic when the opposite is >> "white", in particular as this has a connotation in relation to >> whitelist/blacklist namings which are undoubtedly problematic. I would like >> to propose to replace them with open/closed box monitoring, which not only >> removes any potential of being offensive, it actually conveys much more >> clearly what is meant without having to explain. >> >> The biggest impact this would have would be renaming of the >> blackbox_exporter <https://github.com/prometheus/blackbox_exporter> to >> closedbox_exporter, all other occurrences of this language seem to be >> limited to documentation. >> >> Best regards, >> Frederic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Prometheus Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to prometheus-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prometheus Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to prometheus-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoz5EvGmJx-LdkEgra09SupXFAvhuUAyO8jjxFy6yyRqLA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoz5EvGmJx-LdkEgra09SupXFAvhuUAyO8jjxFy6yyRqLA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to prometheus-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CABbyFmqr5O-W_F7uNvdejTJf%2B8fH9P_FLLtVRE91GXsXuwunLQ%40mail.gmail.com.
