I think it's worth to mention the context of this conversation as well: https://github.com/coreos/prometheus-operator/pull/2832#pullrequestreview-332604611
Kind Regards, Bartek On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 11:35, Julius Volz <[email protected]> wrote: > Btw. in case we do end up going for a rename, I think Probe Exporter or > Prober Exporter would be a nice and descriptive name for what it's doing > (active probing of things). > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 12:03 Julius Volz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Good motivation, personally I think that kind of replacement is a good >> thing to do with blacklist/whitelist (as is happening with flag names in >> the Node Exporter). But I don't know how people feel about blackbox / >> whitebox yet, as it doesn't carry the same negative/positive association >> with colors. It would mean more invasive changes, like renaming the entire >> repository and related documentation web pages, and potential Google >> findability confusion (old blog posts etc. mentioning the old name). >> >> I haven't heard blackbox/whitebox crop up in the same way as e.g. >> blacklist/whitelist yet, but would be interested to affected Black people's >> opinion on whether this seems troublesome as well. If this turns out to be >> offensive to affected people, that'd be a good argument for renaming it IMO. >> >> Julius >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM Frederic Branczyk <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I would like to propose to change all occurrences and namings within the >>> Prometheus project of whitebox and blackbox monitoring. In itself the term >>> Black >>> box <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box> doesn't seem to come from >>> a racist background, but I think it's problematic when the opposite is >>> "white", in particular as this has a connotation in relation to >>> whitelist/blacklist namings which are undoubtedly problematic. I would like >>> to propose to replace them with open/closed box monitoring, which not only >>> removes any potential of being offensive, it actually conveys much more >>> clearly what is meant without having to explain. >>> >>> The biggest impact this would have would be renaming of the >>> blackbox_exporter <https://github.com/prometheus/blackbox_exporter> to >>> closedbox_exporter, all other occurrences of this language seem to be >>> limited to documentation. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Frederic >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prometheus Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoyawu8gP7XU95jFyO24Dk_bZ8VnKy-7wUwHE%2BVDnRTcNQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoyawu8gP7XU95jFyO24Dk_bZ8VnKy-7wUwHE%2BVDnRTcNQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CAMssQwbx7mkjKD-3xEOD9NaYjnT1SQovtPzpr0GtfZEVoAn14w%40mail.gmail.com.
