Btw. in case we do end up going for a rename, I think Probe Exporter or
Prober Exporter would be a nice and descriptive name for what it's doing
(active probing of things).

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 12:03 Julius Volz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Good motivation, personally I think that kind of replacement is a good
> thing to do with blacklist/whitelist (as is happening with flag names in
> the Node Exporter). But I don't know how people feel about blackbox /
> whitebox yet, as it doesn't carry the same negative/positive association
> with colors. It would mean more invasive changes, like renaming the entire
> repository and related documentation web pages, and potential Google
> findability confusion (old blog posts etc. mentioning the old name).
>
> I haven't heard blackbox/whitebox crop up in the same way as e.g.
> blacklist/whitelist yet, but would be interested to affected Black people's
> opinion on whether this seems troublesome as well. If this turns out to be
> offensive to affected people, that'd be a good argument for renaming it IMO.
>
> Julius
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM Frederic Branczyk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to propose to change all occurrences and namings within the
>> Prometheus project of whitebox and blackbox monitoring. In itself the term 
>> Black
>> box <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box> doesn't seem to come from
>> a racist background, but I think it's problematic when the opposite is
>> "white", in particular as this has a connotation in relation to
>> whitelist/blacklist namings which are undoubtedly problematic. I would like
>> to propose to replace them with open/closed box monitoring, which not only
>> removes any potential of being offensive, it actually conveys much more
>> clearly what is meant without having to explain.
>>
>> The biggest impact this would have would be renaming of the
>> blackbox_exporter <https://github.com/prometheus/blackbox_exporter> to
>> closedbox_exporter, all other occurrences of this language seem to be
>> limited to documentation.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Frederic
>>
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