Btw. in case we do end up going for a rename, I think Probe Exporter or Prober Exporter would be a nice and descriptive name for what it's doing (active probing of things).
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 12:03 Julius Volz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Good motivation, personally I think that kind of replacement is a good > thing to do with blacklist/whitelist (as is happening with flag names in > the Node Exporter). But I don't know how people feel about blackbox / > whitebox yet, as it doesn't carry the same negative/positive association > with colors. It would mean more invasive changes, like renaming the entire > repository and related documentation web pages, and potential Google > findability confusion (old blog posts etc. mentioning the old name). > > I haven't heard blackbox/whitebox crop up in the same way as e.g. > blacklist/whitelist yet, but would be interested to affected Black people's > opinion on whether this seems troublesome as well. If this turns out to be > offensive to affected people, that'd be a good argument for renaming it IMO. > > Julius > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM Frederic Branczyk <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to propose to change all occurrences and namings within the >> Prometheus project of whitebox and blackbox monitoring. In itself the term >> Black >> box <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box> doesn't seem to come from >> a racist background, but I think it's problematic when the opposite is >> "white", in particular as this has a connotation in relation to >> whitelist/blacklist namings which are undoubtedly problematic. I would like >> to propose to replace them with open/closed box monitoring, which not only >> removes any potential of being offensive, it actually conveys much more >> clearly what is meant without having to explain. >> >> The biggest impact this would have would be renaming of the >> blackbox_exporter <https://github.com/prometheus/blackbox_exporter> to >> closedbox_exporter, all other occurrences of this language seem to be >> limited to documentation. >> >> Best regards, >> Frederic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Prometheus Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoyawu8gP7XU95jFyO24Dk_bZ8VnKy-7wUwHE%2BVDnRTcNQ%40mail.gmail.com.

