*resurrecting thread* I agree that we should rename it. I wince every time I need to call it by name. I often just call it prober anyway and even unaffiliated people immediately know what I'm talking about.
More broadly, I think "blackbox" / "whitebox" monitoring is not very descriptive, and would propose using "probing" and "instrumentation" respectively. It would take a bit of transition planning, maybe with one "double release" under both names. What do the maintainers think? /MR On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 18:49 Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 for "prober". We could call it simply "prober". It more directly > describes what it's doing. > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:35 PM Julius Volz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Btw. in case we do end up going for a rename, I think Probe Exporter or >> Prober Exporter would be a nice and descriptive name for what it's doing >> (active probing of things). >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 12:03 Julius Volz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Good motivation, personally I think that kind of replacement is a good >>> thing to do with blacklist/whitelist (as is happening with flag names in >>> the Node Exporter). But I don't know how people feel about blackbox / >>> whitebox yet, as it doesn't carry the same negative/positive association >>> with colors. It would mean more invasive changes, like renaming the entire >>> repository and related documentation web pages, and potential Google >>> findability confusion (old blog posts etc. mentioning the old name). >>> >>> I haven't heard blackbox/whitebox crop up in the same way as e.g. >>> blacklist/whitelist yet, but would be interested to affected Black people's >>> opinion on whether this seems troublesome as well. If this turns out to be >>> offensive to affected people, that'd be a good argument for renaming it IMO. >>> >>> Julius >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM Frederic Branczyk <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I would like to propose to change all occurrences and namings within >>>> the Prometheus project of whitebox and blackbox monitoring. In itself the >>>> term Black box <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box> doesn't seem >>>> to come from a racist background, but I think it's problematic when the >>>> opposite is "white", in particular as this has a connotation in relation to >>>> whitelist/blacklist namings which are undoubtedly problematic. I would like >>>> to propose to replace them with open/closed box monitoring, which not only >>>> removes any potential of being offensive, it actually conveys much more >>>> clearly what is meant without having to explain. >>>> >>>> The biggest impact this would have would be renaming of the >>>> blackbox_exporter <https://github.com/prometheus/blackbox_exporter> to >>>> closedbox_exporter, all other occurrences of this language seem to be >>>> limited to documentation. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Frederic >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/98b3d620-d0d6-4436-bf15-3d90915f7909o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Prometheus Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoyawu8gP7XU95jFyO24Dk_bZ8VnKy-7wUwHE%2BVDnRTcNQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CA%2BT6Yoyawu8gP7XU95jFyO24Dk_bZ8VnKy-7wUwHE%2BVDnRTcNQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prometheus Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CABbyFmrju%2BxYo6pvjEOhNh-gFXa9%2BB5rKyHwXsSjgSy-KCSFSA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CABbyFmrju%2BxYo6pvjEOhNh-gFXa9%2BB5rKyHwXsSjgSy-KCSFSA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CAMV%3D_gay%2BtgLERdhmrTvqr%3D3tvpnpq0TXc6mNxrsM3jK-wesKg%40mail.gmail.com.
