Ivan / Tim With respect
If you are going to base a quote on my response you missed out something I said earlier in the same email >> But remember, it is a safety cushion, not a cure/solution. If you had read this, in the context it was intended you could have saved a lot of typing. Of course there is no substitute for 'responsible' computing, but I skipped that one, in favour of the above statement, as I did not wish to imply that Jami was not a responsible person. I would however, also make the same statement about a FW, especially SW only ones or even some HW ones. :-) Best regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Antivirus Software & Memory Issues > I support Ivan's position. I use a well tuned firewall program and no AV > software, for all the same reasons he mentioned. Just use a great deal of > care in how you use your computer these days and don't count on AV software > to make your life simpler - it usually fails somewhere, somehow and its very > messy when it does. A good example is the deadly embrace that can occur > when an installer reboots your system but can't complete registry management > because an AV program interfered. > > Sincerely, > > Tim Hutcheson > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > University of West Florida > 40 South Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32501 > > --------------------------------- > "There are 10 types of people in the world; > those that read binary and those that don't." > -- Anonymous Poster -- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:37 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Antivirus Software & Memory Issues > > > > Norton has had more than its fair share of problems in the windows > > environment (especially W98/ME) with Access Violations & crashes > attributed > > to it (all in MS KB), not a good record. It is also not reviewed well by a > > lot of independent sources. But I know many people who are happy with it. > > YAA (Yet Another Anecdote): my stepmom has lots of problems with crashes on > W2K and Autocad 2002 and Norton Anti-Virus. She was asking me why her brand > new dual Xeon system keeps crashing. I asked her what software she runs on > it and when she said NAV, I said that could be her problem. An AV program > has to intercept OS file reads and writes, so it is very intrusive software. > If the system is already taxed by heavyweight apps, the slightest bug in an > AV program could cause an unrecoverable crash. If the apps have bad memory > leaks (like I think Autocad 2002 has), this could make AV crashes even more > likely. > > I don't use AV software for these reasons: > 1) I am careful about what I download (no games or non-essential programs) > 2) I don't accept certain types of attachments from people I don't know > personally, or casual (non-knowledgeable) computer users. Forbidden file > types are: EXE, COM, BAT, VBS, VCF, DOC, XLW, XLS, PPT, DDB, MDB, and > anything else I suspect. If I get an attachment of this type, I immediately > delete it without opening it, and request the sender to re-send it in a more > secure format (TXT, RTF, PDF, etc.) > 3) AV software is a nuisance when you are writing a program and developing > EXEs. Every time your compiler tries to create an EXE, the AV pops up and > asks you if it's a virus. > 4) AV software must be maintained with $$. It's a crazy train you can > never get off of. > 5) Ever wonder who writes all those viruses? Could it be the AV companies? > Why isn't there some kind of DOJ investigation into this? This wouldn't be > the first occurrence of the business model of creating a problem just to > sell the solution. > 6) AV software can cause system crashes which are usually unrecoverable. > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
