Still, $2995 is *WAY TOO MUCH* for a schematic package.  Try $495, that's
what DOS Orcad used to cost in the 80's.  Don't give me that tired old
inflation argument - if inflation was a factor, why does hardware (real
physical stuff) cost less than ever and software (real physical stuff ==
$0.20 for the CD) prices are heading toward the stratosphere?

If you guys know any laid-off software engineers, tell them to get busy and
write a low-cost compatible-to-Protel schematic package and if they charged
just a little for it, they could make a business from it, or at least feed
their families until they get another job.

Oh, and tell them to make both Windows and Linux versions.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] The othe half of DXP?


> I could be wrong, but after viewing the listed website link, I thought the
> announcement was referring to a new product that includes only the
schematic
> portion of the current DXP.  Although nVisage is a bit more than just the
> schematic, it does not include any PCB tools at $2,995.00.  I will have to
> go and read it again to be sure, but there is also a demo version
available
> that would confirm or deny this.  If this is the case, I don't think a
> substantial amount of resources would be needed at all since they only
have
> to delete the PCB tools from the current DXP product to create nVisage.  I
> think this a great alternative to some companies that have several circuit
> designers and only a couple of layout people, therefore not requiring a
full
> license in areas where it will never be utilized.
>
> Rob Young
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
> Subject: [PEDA] The othe half of DXP?
>
>
> > OK guys and gals, by now many of you have received the announcement of
> > Altiums new product:
> >
> > nVisage, which can be seen at:  http://www.nvisage.com/
> >
> > They call it nVisage DXP, and at first glance it appears to be a
schematic
> > capture package and simulator to front-end Altiums other products.
> >
> > Now you know where the other half of DXP is.
> >
> > Now you know where your ATS money went.
> >
> > You have complained for years about the garbage that was bundled into
> Protel
> > Client 99 SE with PCB, and now you can see the results of your
complaints.
> >
> > If you have the bucks, you can pay for it too.
> >
> > The press release: http://www.nvisage.com/news.htm
> >
> > And some details: http://www.nvisage.com/product/index.html
> >
> > So now all of you guys and gals who have been "beta testing" the
> "released"
> > version of DXP know where all of your input and requests and complaints
> have
> > gone.
> >
> > Its gone into a new product, which they will gladly sell you a copy of,
> for
> > a price.
> >
> > I wonder if it comes with ATS.
> >
> > Urrrrrrrgh!
> >
> > Actually, the real question is: Has Altium really been listening all
this
> > time, and just packaged together all of the fixes and features that have
> > been requested into a separate product to sell us, as opposed to fixing
> the
> > original product, P99SE (which of course we already paid for), or its
> > replacement DXP, or have they just gone out and bought something else
from
> > someone else, which really doesn't fit anywhere, which they will now try
> and
> > integrate with other products, somewhat like the way they attempted to
> > integrate a nonfunctional Schematic package with PCB in Client.
> >
> > Is this somehow related to PCAD?
> >
> > Is this just some other product that just has been purchased and
> repackaged
> > in "Altium Wrappings".
> >
> > Assuming that Altium actually did have a hand in its' development, how
do
> > you DXP Forum supporters feel now?
> >
> > Ripped Off? Betrayed? Used? Intellectually Raped?
> >
> > Will you now be abandoned, and told to buy the new product?
> >
> > Isn't it just a little odd that it shares the name DXP, as if it really
is
> > the "other half" of the new DXP product.
> >
> > Oh well, should we really expect anything less.
> >
> > Guess we really just have to wait and see what it really is and how
Altium
> > decides to handle it.
> >
> > Start saving your money, because Altium wants it, and they are gonna try
> and
> > get it one way or another.
> >
> > Next thing you know they are going to come out with an Autorouter that
> will
> > handle Differential Controlled Impedance Transmission Lines. Never mind
> the
> > fact that the feature is missing from their current new "state of the
art"
> > Situs Autorouter product that they just released.
> >
> > Will they call that one dRoute DXP?
> >
> > Once again,
> >
> > Urrrrrrrgh!
> >
>

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