> I mentioned this because I know that a designer might be approached by
> someone who wants to make such a thing. He might provide a photo of an old
> board and say that he needs to reproduce it, the originals have been lost,

I guess laziness has no-bounds.

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Brian Guralnick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] License Legalities OT


> At 07:56 PM 9/9/2003, Brian Guralnick wrote:
> > > misdemeanor. Selling the boxes appears to be a public offense (if I'm
> > > correct, public offenses are prosecutable as felonies). Relevant to
the
> > > interests of printed circuit designers, printed circuit boards are
> > > specifically mentioned.
> >
> >     That's because any pirated boxes have been stolen from the cable
> >company, or manufacter.  Such cable boxes are only sold between the
> >manufacturers (ie Scientific Atlanta, GI - Jerrold, Pioneer...) and the
> >cable companies.  Any of the boxes which are purchased separately between
> >you & a store dealer, must be stolen units, or stolen property, not to
> >mention that these units have also been modified intentionally for theft
of
> >signal as well.
>
> No, I don't think this is correct, or at least it isn't complete. The
> reference is to non-authorized decoders which are sold on the black
market.
> They are not generally stolen, per se, though they may represent
> unauthorized use of intellectual property or such things as copied circuit
> boards. The reference is to devices to defeat the scrambling. Sure, the
> legal box does that, but a new law wouldn't have been needed to deal with
> theft of boxes.... Rather someone may have reverse-engineered a box or may
> have developed an independent decoder.
>
> I mentioned this because I know that a designer might be approached by
> someone who wants to make such a thing. He might provide a photo of an old
> board and say that he needs to reproduce it, the originals have been lost,
> he might claim. (And certainly I've been asked to reproduce PCBs where the
> films etc. had completely disappeared.) Designers are not obligated to
> confirm that a design request is legitimate, but if it did become
> reasonably clear that it was not legitimate, and the designer provided
> services to further the end of unlawful use, I think the designer might be
> exposed to criminal liability. This is entirely aside from the ethical
> question.
>
>



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