Yes, I'm in North Ryde.

Protel isn't an option in this case, unfortunately.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, 31 October 2003 10:38 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting Classes?
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> Buy, beg borrow or steal P99SE for your contractor. The 
> possibility for error on
> this project could be great.
> 
> Sorry for off topic question, are you located in Nth Ryde?
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> BR Clive
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> "John Haddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31/10/2003 09:45:12 AM
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> Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To:   "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:    (bcc: Clive Broome/sdc)
> 
> Subject:  Re: [PEDA] Exporting Classes?
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> 
> Thanks Denis,
> 
> I do know about exporting design rules, but since many of these
> rules are class specific then they're irrelevant unless we can
> also provide class membership info.
> 
> The export effort is to transfer the IP of an integrated circuit
> tester loadboard. This is a 24 layer, nearly 0.25" thick, approx.
> 18 inch diameter board which attaches to a chip tester and feed
> handler.
> 
> The contractor will be making a modified (simpler) version of this
> loadboard in their own CAD system. Most of the design intent is
> captured in the design rules, which makes this aspect critical to
> the transfer exercise.
> 
> We're talking about a design with probably two to three hundred
> net classes, twenty or more component classes and about a thousand
> design rules (many combinations of net + component + layer rules).
> Running a full DRC takes days!
> 
> John Haddy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:36 PM
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting Classes?
> >
> >
> > not that i can see, EXCEPT if you save as ascii PCB
> > here is a snip from a simple bd at bottom
> >
> > can you explain more what they are trying to do?
> > recreate in another system?
> >
> > i assume you are aware that you *can* export the design rules
> > to a file
> >
> > Dennis Saputelli
> >
> >
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=MTGHOLES|KIND=9|SUPERCLASS=FALSE|M0=MT7|M1=
> > MT6|M2=MT5|M3=MT4|M4=MT3|M5=MT2|M6=MT1|M7=MT8|M8=MT1|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=SMALLCONSM|KIND=9|SUPERCLASS=FALSE|M0=J20|M
> > 
> 1=J2|M2=J1|M3=J4|M4=J3|M5=J6|M6=J5|M7=J8|M8=J7|M9=J100|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=8MILOK|KIND=8|SUPERCLASS=FALSE|M0=LLE1|M1=L
> > LE4|M2=LSC1|M3=LSC4|M4=LSD1|M5=LSD4|M6=SWS1|M7=SWS4|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=+-5|KIND=8|SUPERCLASS=FALSE|M0=NetJ32_1|M1=
> > +5V1|M2=+5VM|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=POWER|KIND=8|SUPERCLASS=FALSE|M0=+PWR4|M1=+
> > PWR1|M2=+12Q6|M3=+12Q5|M4=NetJ32_3|M5=-5VM1|M6=NetJ32_1|M7=+5V
> > 1|M8=FAN|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=All
> > Components|KIND=9|SUPERCLASS=TRUE|M0=VR3|M1=KEY4|M2=LD13|M3=C4
> > |M4=C3|M5=C2|M6=C1|M7=R21|M8=E4|M9=E3|M10=E2|M11=E1|M12=Q1|M13
> > =D1|M14=R14|M15=R13|M16=KEY1|M17=R9|M18=RF1_1|M19=R5|M20=LD9|M
> > 21=SW1|M22=VR1|M23=LD2|M24=LD2|M25=J5|M26=J1|M27=KEY2|M28=MB10
> > |M29=ST4|M30=VR2|M31=LD4|M32=LD4|M33=J6|M34=KEY3|M35=LD11|M36=
> > SW3|M37=LD6|M38=LD6|M39=J7|M40=LD12|M41=SW4|M42=VR4|M43=LD8|M4
> > 4=LD8|M45=J8|M46=Q2|M47=D2|M48=R16|M49=R15|M50=R10|M51=RF2_1|M
> > 52=R6|M53=Q3|M54=D3|M55=R18|M56=R17|M57=R11|M58=RF3_2|M59=R7|M
> > 60=Q4|M61=D4|M62=R20|M63=R19|M64=R12|M65=RF4_2|M66=R8|M67=J2|M
> > 68=J3|M69=J4|M70=J3|M71=J4|M72=J6|M73=J5|M74=MB10|M75=VR3|M76=
> > KEY4|M77=LD13|M78=C4|M79=C3|M80=C2|M81=C1|M82=E4|M83=E3|M84=E2
> > |M85=E1|M86=Q1|M87=D1|M88=R14|M89=R13|M90=KEY1|M91=R9|M92=RF1_
> > 1|M93=R5|M94=LD9|M95=SW1|M96=VR1|M97=LD2|M98=LD2|M99=J5|M100=J
> > 1|M101=KEY2|M102=ST4|M103=VR2|M104=LD4|M105=LD4|M106=J6|M107=K
> > EY3|M108=LD11|M109=SW3|M110=LD6|M111=LD6|M112=J7|M113=LD12|M11
> > 4=SW4|M115=VR4|M116=LD8|M117=LD8|M118=J8|M119=Q2|M120=D2|M1!
> >  21=R16|M122=R15|M123=R10|M124=R6|
> > M125=Q3|M126=D3|M127=R18|M128=R17|M129=R11|M130=RF3_2|M131=R7|
> > M132=Q4|M133=D4|M134=R20|M135=R19|M136=R12|M137=RF4_2|M138=R8|
> > M139=J2|M140=J3|M141=J4|M142=RF2_1|M143=MB10|M144=VR3|M145=KEY
> > 4|M146=LD13|M147=C4|M148=C3|M149=C2|M150=C1|M151=E4|M152=E3|M1
> > 53=E2|M154=E1|M155=Q1|M156=D1|M157=R14|M158=R13|M159=KEY1|M160
> > =R9|M161=RF1_1|M162=R5|M163=LD9|M164=SW1|M165=VR1|M166=LD2|M16
> > 7=LD2|M168=J5|M169=J1|M170=KEY2|M171=ST4|M172=VR2|M173=LD4|M17
> > 4=LD4|M175=J6|M176=KEY3|M177=LD11|M178=SW3|M179=LD6|M180=LD6|M
> > 181=J7|M182=LD12|M183=SW4|M184=VR4|M185=LD8|M186=LD8|M187=J8|M
> > 188=Q2|M189=D2|M190=R16|M191=R15|M192=R10|M193=R6|M194=Q3|M195
> > =D3|M196=R18|M197=R17|M198=R11|M199=RF3_2|M200=R7|M201=Q4|M202
> > =D4|M203=R20|M204=R19|M205=R12|M206=RF4_2|M207=R8|M208=J2|M209
> > =J3|M210=J4|M211=RF2_1|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=All Nets|KIND=8|SUPERCLASS=TRUE|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=All 
> From-Tos|KIND=15|SUPERCLASS=TRUE|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=All Pads|KIND=2|SUPERCLASS=TRUE|SELECTED=FALSE
> > |RECORD=Class|NAME=BREAKAWAYS|KIND=9|SUPERCLASS=FALSE|M0=MB11|
> > M1=MB8|M2=MB7|M3=MB6|M4=MB18|M5=MB17|M6=MB16|M7=MB15|M8=MB9|M9
> > =MB1|M10=MB2|M11=MB3|M12=MB4|M13=MB5|M14=MB10|M15=MB12|M16=MB2
> > 3|M17=MB22|M18=MB21|M19=MB21|M20=MB20|M21=MB19|M22=MB19|M23=MB
> > 14|M24=MB13|SELECTED=FALSE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Haddy wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We're trying to export all the information from a 99SE
> > > database so that we can provide it to a contractor who
> > > doesn't have any access to Protel (or a Protel import
> > > tool).
> > >
> > > Our big sticking point at the moment is in getting the
> > > list of classes and class mambers out of the ddb and
> > > into a text file.
> > >
> > > Has anybody done this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > John Haddy
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Dennis Saputelli
> >
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> > ______________________________________________________________
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