he sounds deluded, about his abilities, and about his chances of making it.
At 10:39 PM 7/24/2017, you wrote:
And that's just it. He doesn't! wanna do this
for fun. He keeps swearing he's gonna get a
place in the record hall of fame. I'm not using
that term figuratively. He's literally made me
that swear that by this time in 3 months, he thinks he'll be there.
He's just very very stubborn. I don't wanna be
rude about it, but... and BTW, no, he's not on
this list, so, we're safe, and I know that for a fact.
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From: <mailto:[email protected]>TheOreoMonster
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: How would you all as full fledged professionals handle this?
I’d say point out the things you did here,
without being negative or saying you suck.
Something like your vocals are off key and that
they should consider collaborating with
vocalist. You can also explain that to your more
experienced ears it sounds over compressed and
muddy or etc. No need to get into the technical
details you got into in your email as it sounds
like he isn’t to a experience level with
productions where that would mean much to him
yet. The thing is if they are doing this for fun
and to keep themselves busy, then its up to them
if they work on getting better or not. If they
wants to get to a point where they wants to do
this professionally however, then they’d need
to consider more experienced opinions at some point.
On Jul 24, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Christopher-Mark
Gilland <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
OK, so I have a friend who sent me a track he
had recorded. Granted, he did it in Reaper not
PT, but that's kind of not exactly the point.
He wanted my opinion on his mix, etc.
First off, the guy is almost 2 whole steps off
key. I know, as I know very well the song that
he recorded. This isn't him using
improvization. It's more truely him being off
the correct note or anything there close.
Secondly, his vocals clipped horribly. With no
processing or anything, the meters are showing him at positive 9.3DB.
On his reverb, he ran both the wet, and the dry
mix at 100%, so he sounds like he's in the
grand cannyon. Plus, he's got major major
headphone bleedover, so bad, I almost can make
out each note individually from the karaoke track he used.
When he hits the higher notes, he's singing
from his throat, I can tell, as he's straining
badly, and literally almost shouting.
On the compressor, he used a 8/1 with the
attack as fast as the compressor plug would let
him, and the attack as slow as it would. Then,
he set the threshold at negative 14DB, which
obviously means he's squashing the living shit
out of things! Worse is, he not only did this
on his vocal, but he then reduplicated it on
the master fader as well. Aaa, my aching! ears!
Finally, he turned up all frequencies around 60HZ by about 5 DB.
When I told him this needed a lot of work,
being he wanted my honest opinion, he says he
cannot hear the things I'm talking about nor
how it negatively effected the mix.
This guy's been through a lot of emotional
psychological trauma, which so've I, so I know
how it feels. I don't wanna tell him this
sounds like utter F***ing shit, but, that said,
this is about the 5th song he's sent me like
this. I just don't think he's cut out for a
vocalist let alone a producer. OK, who 'em I to
judge! I know, I know, I'm not the greatest
myself, but at least I listen and try taking
advice when people give it, hince why I've
improved as much over the years as I have. This
guy simply won't take any advice I nor anyone
else give him. He didn't pay me to listen, he
just asked me as a friend to tell him. He's not
expecting me to do this as him being a client.
So, client or not, what's the best way with
love, mind you, to more politely say, Jane Doe? You absolutely suck!
Surely some of you all have had vocalists or
musicians who you listenned to, who you had to
turn down the job from as they just weren't
seen as fit for it. They just didn't have what it would take.
How do you let those guys off easy, without
being a nasty Simon Cowell the second? My
christian morrals won't let me lie, but if I
say what I really think, it's gonna break his
heart! I can't do that to such a dear friend! I just can't! What do I do!
Chris.
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