I’d say point out the things you did here, without being negative or saying you suck. Something like your vocals are off key and that they should consider collaborating with vocalist. You can also explain that to your more experienced ears it sounds over compressed and muddy or etc. No need to get into the technical details you got into in your email as it sounds like he isn’t to a experience level with productions where that would mean much to him yet. The thing is if they are doing this for fun and to keep themselves busy, then its up to them if they work on getting better or not. If they wants to get to a point where they wants to do this professionally however, then they’d need to consider more experienced opinions at some point.
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > OK, so I have a friend who sent me a track he had recorded. Granted, he did > it in Reaper not PT, but that's kind of not exactly the point. > > He wanted my opinion on his mix, etc. > > First off, the guy is almost 2 whole steps off key. I know, as I know very > well the song that he recorded. This isn't him using improvization. It's more > truely him being off the correct note or anything there close. > > Secondly, his vocals clipped horribly. With no processing or anything, the > meters are showing him at positive 9.3DB. > > On his reverb, he ran both the wet, and the dry mix at 100%, so he sounds > like he's in the grand cannyon. Plus, he's got major major headphone > bleedover, so bad, I almost can make out each note individually from the > karaoke track he used. > > When he hits the higher notes, he's singing from his throat, I can tell, as > he's straining badly, and literally almost shouting. > > On the compressor, he used a 8/1 with the attack as fast as the compressor > plug would let him, and the attack as slow as it would. Then, he set the > threshold at negative 14DB, which obviously means he's squashing the living > shit out of things! Worse is, he not only did this on his vocal, but he then > reduplicated it on the master fader as well. Aaa, my aching! ears! > > Finally, he turned up all frequencies around 60HZ by about 5 DB. > > When I told him this needed a lot of work, being he wanted my honest opinion, > he says he cannot hear the things I'm talking about nor how it negatively > effected the mix. > > This guy's been through a lot of emotional psychological trauma, which so've > I, so I know how it feels. I don't wanna tell him this sounds like utter > F***ing shit, but, that said, this is about the 5th song he's sent me like > this. I just don't think he's cut out for a vocalist let alone a producer. > OK, who 'em I to judge! I know, I know, I'm not the greatest myself, but at > least I listen and try taking advice when people give it, hince why I've > improved as much over the years as I have. This guy simply won't take any > advice I nor anyone else give him. He didn't pay me to listen, he just asked > me as a friend to tell him. He's not expecting me to do this as him being a > client. > > So, client or not, what's the best way with love, mind you, to more politely > say, Jane Doe? You absolutely suck! > > Surely some of you all have had vocalists or musicians who you listenned to, > who you had to turn down the job from as they just weren't seen as fit for > it. They just didn't have what it would take. > > How do you let those guys off easy, without being a nasty Simon Cowell the > second? My christian morrals won't let me lie, but if I say what I really > think, it's gonna break his heart! I can't do that to such a dear friend! I > just can't! What do I do! > > Chris. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
