And the very weird gloating has begun https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote: > To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the > Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14 > of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed. > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš! >> >> Here's our statement: >> https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656 >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Detailed voting data available: >>> >>> Votes: >>> 22.whether to accept amendments >>> 23.approve directive >>> >>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+20190326+RES-RCV+DOC+PDF+V0//EN&language=EN >>> >>> >>> Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page: >>> https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf >>> >>> >>> Mārtiņš >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll have a >>>> statement out later today. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help, everyone! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So narrow, that hurts. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Directive was approved 348-274. >>>>>> >>>>>> D >>>>>> >>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>> [email protected]> написа: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Directive approved >>>>>>> by 5 votes >>>>>>> 317 to 312 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>> [email protected]> написа: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in Strasbourg >>>>>>>> to vote on the copyright file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or just >>>>>>>> vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a majority for that >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am attaching a >>>>>>>> voting >>>>>>>> list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can follow the vote. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stream is here: >>>>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900-PLENARY >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is: >>>>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on 9 >>>>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and Member >>>>>>>> States >>>>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case we will >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy *some* of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future litigation. We can also >>>>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least nationally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform: >>>>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States >>>>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to further >>>>>>>> amend >>>>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP >>>>>>>> elections, as >>>>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very hypothetical: >>>>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes its >>>>>>>> behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the package. >>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>> copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as an "A >>>>>>>> item" for >>>>>>>> the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely procedural, get >>>>>>>> nodded >>>>>>>> off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have already taken >>>>>>>> place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such an A item >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is extremely >>>>>>>> unlikely to happen again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg, >>>>>>>> Dimi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Katherine Maher (she/her) >>>>> >>>>> Executive Director >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >
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