https://boingboing.net/2019/03/26/jfc-fml-jfc.html
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 21:47, Owen Blacker <[email protected]> wrote: > Touché. "Digital skeptic" indeed 🙄 > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:45 Jan Gerlach, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Friends, we may have our disagreements with this songwriter from the >> 1990s, but let's stay polite! >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:40 PM Owen Blacker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Well he's quite the wanker, isn't he? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:09 Liam Wyatt, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> And the very weird gloating has begun >>>> https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21 >>>> >>>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the >>>>> Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14 >>>>> of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš! >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's our statement: >>>>>> https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Detailed voting data available: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Votes: >>>>>>> 22.whether to accept amendments >>>>>>> 23.approve directive >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+20190326+RES-RCV+DOC+PDF+V0//EN&language=EN >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page: >>>>>>> https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mārtiņš >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll >>>>>>>> have a statement out later today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your help, everyone! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So narrow, that hurts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Directive was approved 348-274. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> D >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> написа: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Directive approved >>>>>>>>>>> by 5 votes >>>>>>>>>>> 317 to 312 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> написа: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in >>>>>>>>>>>> Strasbourg to vote on the copyright file. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or >>>>>>>>>>>> just vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a majority >>>>>>>>>>>> for that >>>>>>>>>>>> will votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am >>>>>>>>>>>> attaching a >>>>>>>>>>>> voting list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can follow >>>>>>>>>>>> the vote. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stream is here: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900-PLENARY >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is: >>>>>>>>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on 9 >>>>>>>>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and >>>>>>>>>>>> Member States >>>>>>>>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case we >>>>>>>>>>>> will work >>>>>>>>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy >>>>>>>>>>>> *some* of the >>>>>>>>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future litigation. We can >>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least nationally. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform: >>>>>>>>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States >>>>>>>>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to >>>>>>>>>>>> further amend >>>>>>>>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP >>>>>>>>>>>> elections, as >>>>>>>>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Very hypothetical: >>>>>>>>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes >>>>>>>>>>>> its behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the >>>>>>>>>>>> package. >>>>>>>>>>>> But copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as an >>>>>>>>>>>> "A item" >>>>>>>>>>>> for the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely procedural, >>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>> nodded off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have >>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>> taken place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such >>>>>>>>>>>> an A item >>>>>>>>>>>> was pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is >>>>>>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>>>>>> unlikely to happen again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg, >>>>>>>>>>>> Dimi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Katherine Maher (she/her) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Executive Director >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >
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